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You CAN Vote for Someone Other Than Romney or Obama, Robert ClintStroman
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Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Audio and Transcript – Like many people out there, Robert believes that there are only two candidates for President, but there’s not.ย There’s also Gary Johnson and Virgil Goode. So no, you don’t have to vote for the BIG R or the BIG D, you can vote for another party… but you should always vote your conscience. Check out the rest in today’s audio and transcript….
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You CAN Vote for Someone Other Than Romney or Obama, Robert ClintStroman
Begin Mike Church Show Transcript
Mike:ย Robert is in New York.ย Robert is steaming, hopping, angry mad.ย Why are you mad, Robert?
Caller Robert:ย Good morning, Mike.ย It seems like with Obama, our nation is headed about 100 miles an hour over a cliff.ย To listen to you talk about Romney, it seems that maybe Romney might slow this thing down to about 60 miles an hour over the cliff.ย The reality is, we only have two choices.ย If we slow it down, hopefully a little bit, at least itโll give the American —
Mike:ย No, you donโt have two choices.ย You have the Constitution Party in 27 states.ย You have the Libertarian Party in 50 states.ย You have more than two choices.ย Youโre not compelled to vote Republican or Democrat.
Caller Robert:ย Well, Iโm just talking about the two candidates that we know, one Democrat and one Republican, that people, as a norm, are going to go vote for, Mike.
Mike:ย What about Virgil Gooding?ย What about Gary Johnson?ย There are other candidates.
Caller Robert:ย Yes, Mike, but the people —
Mike:ย I know, yes, I know, the sheeple only have two choices.ย Itโs the same every November in our quadrennial circus that we call a presidential election.ย Yes, Iโm well aware.
Caller Robert:ย Okay, so the reality is you have this media who only let everyone know that there are two choices.ย Weโre up against the whole media.ย Weโre up against what we have in terms of these individuals who are now the frontrunners in this election.ย Weโve basically got two choices, Mike.
Mike:ย I asked a question earlier today, Robert, if Vladimir Putin were running against Obama as a Republican, would you vote for him?ย Heโs not Obama.
Caller Robert:ย If in fact Vladimir would slow this thing down to 60 miles an hour —
Mike:ย He would!ย He would!ย If Raul Castro were on the ballot with a capital R in front of his name against Obama, would you vote for him?
Caller Robert:ย If it would slow this train down, I would vote for him.
Mike:ย What evidence do you have that itโs going to slow the train down?
Caller Robert:ย Thatโs the whole point, we donโt have any evidence.ย When I listen to you, itโs almost like thereโs no difference between Obama and —
Mike:ย Of course thereโs a difference.ย That is not true.ย Iโm getting a little sick and tired of this accusation and you people, or you directly in this instance, accusing me of things that Iโm not guilty of.ย There are vast differences between the two.ย To me, the differences between the two are not significant enough to cause me to be enthusiastic about either one of them.
Caller Robert:ย Yeah, but Mike, the way you —
Mike:ย See, I give an explanation.ย I get, [mocking] โYeah, but Mike . . ..โย Go ahead.ย School me, Robert, school me.
Caller Robert:ย The most poignant point that substantiates what Iโm saying was the lady that called yesterday that said she was more or less an independent but now sheโs thinking or considering not voting for Romney.ย Mike, there are a lot of independents who are in that same category right now.
Mike:ย Robert, you seem to have misunderstood my job title.ย I am not the shill-in host for the GOP.
AG:ย You donโt want — I think itโs foolish to say youโd want a radio host that youโd listen to to be disingenuous.
Mike:ย You want me to lie.ย They try to convince me to lie.ย They want men of principle except when they donโt want men of principle, right, Robert?
Caller Robert:ย Thatโs not what I want, Mike.ย Thatโs not what I want.
Mike:ย Explain to me what you want then.
Caller Robert:ย What you need to understand, Mike, what we have in terms of our two choices, no matter how you look at it, Romney, for right now, seems better as a choice than Obama.ย We know what we got with Obama.
Mike:ย I have already endorsed the Christian gentleman side of Mitt Romney.ย Iโve already endorsed him.ย Remember the day I did it after his speech?ย I even said this will not be enough for people like Robert.ย Donโt try to get me to endorse policy because itโs not going to happen.ย Iโve already made my choice, that Romney is far superior, in my humble opinion anyway, as a fine Christian gentleman, a philanthropic, fine Christian gentleman.ย Is that not good enough for you?
Caller Robert:ย Yes, Mike, but at the same time, Iโm trying to tell you as a listener out here listening to you, itโs not coming across like that.ย Itโs coming across as if, virtually speaking, this man is so full of flaws in all that he does that why would an independent want to change course and vote for him when they know what they got in Obama?
AG:ย Robert, do you just want Mike to —
Mike:ย Heโs just babbling now.ย He wants me to lie.
AG:ย Do you want Romney talking points from Mike?
Mike:ย Sure, thatโs exactly what he wants.
Caller Robert:ย No, thatโs not what I want.ย At the same time, even if — that doesnโt mean that everything you think, Mike, that you have to say.
Mike:ย Robert, Iโm going to give you an alternative.
AG:ย Wait, the idea that everything you think you donโt have to say —
Mike:ย Iโm just amused by this.ย Here, Robert, try this out.
[playing Hilary Duffโs โSo Yesterdayโ]
Mike:ย This is so much better than me running my mouth, a little Hilary Duff here on a Friday.ย Sing it with me, Robert.ย [Mike singing]ย Isnโt this better, Robert?ย So Robert, you have Mike and his opinions or you have Hilary Duff.ย Choose.
Caller Robert:ย Mike, youโre playing the part of the enemy within.ย Thatโs what youโre doing right now.
Mike:ย How am I the enemy?ย So the truth is the enemy then?
Caller Robert:ย Itโs not about that.ย Itโs how you present the truth.
Mike:ย Oh, so itโs not about the truth?ย So the truth is the enemy.ย The Constitution is the enemy.ย Iโve been making this point for five years now, that the Constitution is dead.ย My friend, you are living, breathing, talking, phone-calling proof of that axiom.ย I should be a multi-bazillionaire for calling this five years ago.ย It seems to not matter.ย The enemy within, the truth is the enemy within.ย Thatโs novel.ย Hold on, Robert.
[playing Hilary Duffโs โSo Yesterday”]
Mike:ย All right, Robert, if youโre not going to sing, Iโm going to have to let you go.
Caller Robert:ย Mike, Iโm not going to sing.ย Remember, itโs the way youโre presenting it.
Mike:ย How do you want me to present it, Robert?ย Iโm trying to not yell here because then Iโll get hate mail saying that I yelled at you.ย Iโve given you, let me look at the timer here.ย Well, Hilary Duff shared some of your time.
Caller Robert:ย Yeah, she got an awful lot of my time.
Mike:ย Seven minutes and 50 seconds.ย For those of you that are going to tweet about why didnโt you let the guy speak his mind, you only gave him two minutes — actually, weโre on eight minutes now.ย What do you want me to say?ย Just tell me.ย Iโm going to write down what you want me to say and Iโm going to say it.
Caller Robert:ย All right, Mike, hereโs the deal.ย Itโs not so much what I want you to say, I want you to understand that right now, with the independents, what youโre doing, the way youโre doing what youโre doing, the independents have no reason to change course because you have blurred the lines so much.ย Youโve spent so much time on this negative of Romney to the point where why would any . . . want to change that he knows he already has in Obama?ย Ultimately, youโre going to hurt this election process, Mike.
Mike:ย How am I hurting the election process?ย Isnโt the election process a selection process?ย So you want a bunch of mind numb robots out there just chanting โRepublicanโ?ย Thatโs a solution?ย Really?
Caller Robert:ย Mike, consider the fact that —
Mike:ย No.ย I have considered the facts.ย Youโre not considering the facts.ย Youโre giving me a bunch of 1984 George Orwell doublespeak here.ย The man is right.ย Obey the man.
Caller Robert:ย Mike.
Mike:ย Robert.
Caller Robert:ย Weโre headed over a cliff and weโve got to slow —
Mike:ย Yeah, we are headed over.ย Yeah, Robert, I donโt know that.
Caller Robert:ย We are, Mike, we are.ย Weโve got to slow the train down somehow.ย The only way —
Mike:ย You know how you slow the train down, Robert?ย You elect a Congress that has read Article I of the U.S. Constitution and stops funding Obamaโs operations.ย This can be done — by the way, this can be done today.ย You donโt have to have an election to have that done today.ย Thatโs another truth that we donโt want to get into, isnโt it?
Caller Robert:ย No, no, thatโs fine, Mike, because the reality is we now know because you point it out so well.ย Weโve got a total decepticon Congress.
Mike:ย Ten minutes now.
Caller Robert:ย Thatโs why we got to slow this thing down.
Mike:ย All right, Robert.ย Iโm just a passenger.ย Youโre driving the Amtrak, not me.ย [laughing]ย We donโt have enough time.ย Weโre going to have to take a break.ย Iโm amused.ย The truth is the enemy within.
AG:ย Host honesty, not important.
Mike:ย Host honesty is not valued by listeners.ย We should get J.D. Power and Associates to study this.ย [mocking] โJ.D. Power and Associates study concluded that 78 percent of Americans want hosts that do not have honesty.โย What you want is someone to repeat to you โBaaaaโ what the sheeple are saying maybe?ย Iโm going to get a new Hilary Duff record.ย Weโll be right back.
End Mike Church Show Transcript
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jwopic on September 27, 2012
Mike my Lord Jesus gave me this conscience at birth and I am sick of someone who tells me if you vote for this person or that person your vote is for the incumbent. I did not put that man in office as they have suggested yet those so-called elitists will not vote to rid this country of evil. No they will vote for the lesser of. No more not this little “r” republican. You keep teaching and I will keep spreading the truth.
Lori Murphy on September 19, 2012
I just had to go back and listen to this one more time, Mike. I needed a laugh today. Just for grins, I am going to share this on Facebook and see how many “likes” I get. Who knows – maybe you’ll gain a few new listeners? (Don’t hold your breath, though – my posts usually bring out all the crickets.)
TRae on November 29, 2012
I agree with you it was funny ๐
Allan on September 15, 2012
I can say that I have almost felt the same as Robert on a few occasions, but then I remind myself of what Mike has said about his decision and relax. I had voted Libertarian from the late 90’s up to 2008, I guess I had bought into the mindset that it was the most important election ever and that if those evil progressives got in control it would be the end of America, well they did. They controlled the house, senate and president for two years and unless someone reconnected The Matrix cable, I have yet to see the end of the world. This time around, I will probably vote along the same lines as Mike, but what is different this time is that I have decided to get a lot more involved, not working for the Romney campaign, but with FreedomWorks in spreading the word that it is not up to 1 or a handful of individuals that we send to Mordor on the Potomac, but We The People to tell our representatives what we want for a government. I have been making phone calls and writing to representatives, not yelling and screaming but with thoughtful reason. In addition I have been trying to spread the word through social media and promoting projects like WLK that it wasn’t always like this and that we can change it if we are all willing to put in the effort.
I think Robert is doing what he thinks is right but is angry that we are not all marching in unison chanting U.S.A. U.S.A. to the Romney-Ryan drummer. Some of my most thoughtful discussions come from talking with my liberal and progressives friends, and yes I have many. Some even think I am one too because I don’t call them names and rabidly chant the GOP party line in our talks, but try to make my point through reason.
Lori Murphy on September 14, 2012
I only heard a portion of this call before leaving for work. I listened to BOTH rebroadcasts at work specifically to get all of Robert’s call, but had to wait till I got home to listen to it in its entirety. Robert – this is for you – you’ll be glad to know that after listening to your empassioned position I’ve decided to vote for the Libertarian candidate. Thanks for helping me make that decision!
Eric on September 14, 2012
That was great Mike, I needed a good laugh. It’s reading transcripts like this one, when I miss my Sirius subscription. I could only imagine what that conversation sounded like.