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Bill Maher Comes Out Of The Islamophobic Closet

Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – “It was kind of shocking to start seeing these headlines popping up on Saturday and Sunday that Maher had come out of the closet as an Islamophobe.  I’ve got this story from TheFederalist.com today, “Bill Maher Blasts Liberals For Believing That Muslims Share The Same Values” [as Americans do.]  I have the audio clip here.  We’ll play it in just a moment.”  Check out today’s transcript for the rest….

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Mike:  If you were watching HBO’s Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher, you might have stumbled upon a rather shocking conversation, and that is Maher – many people probably have forgotten this but I’ll remind you.  Bill Maher wrote, produced, and directed a movie about five, six years ago – maybe longer than that, it might have been eight years ago – called Religiosity.  What was it?  It was a film that basically said that Christianity and all other organized religions were all just big pyramid scams, big pyramid schemes basically, that there was nothing to the revealed truth, there was no truth.  Maher is basically Gorgias, the Greek philosopher.  There is no truth.  If there was a truth, you can’t know it, and if you could know it, you couldn’t repeat it to anyone.  The three errors of Gorgias.  Maher is quite infamous for his frequent protestations against Christianity and against Christians.

It was kind of shocking to start seeing these headlines popping up on Saturday and Sunday that Maher had come out of the closet as an Islamophobe.  I’ve got this story from TheFederalist.com today, “Bill Maher Blasts Liberals For Believing That Muslims Share The Same Values” [as Americans do.]  I have the audio clip here.  We’ll play it in just a moment.  After hearing this, at the end of the day:

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On Friday night’s episode of HBO’s “Real Time,” Bill Maher criticized liberals for believing that Muslims share the same values as other religions.

“This idea that all religions share the same values is bullshit and we need to call it bullshit,” Maher said. “If you are in this religion, you probably do have values that are at odds [with American ones]. This is what liberals don’t want to recognize.”

“There’s a radical portion of this religion that takes these ideas and uses them as a fuel to crush people and to kill people and that is something that needs to be squashed,” said Federalist Publisher Ben Domenech. [Mike: We tried to get Ben Domenech on the show this morning, but I guess he’s red-eyed out in LA and was not available this morning. I have the digital media file.]

“There’s 1.5 billion Muslims, surely we can agree that there’s a portion of them, a portion that does number in the millions, [that support radical portions of the faith],” Domenech said.

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Mike:  This is a point that we began to explore two weeks ago here on the Veritas Radio Network, Crusade Channel, and the Mike Church Show by having Andrew Bieszad, our Islamic scholar friend, on the program to discuss this.  There’s a part of this that most of these talking heads get wrong, and that is that, [mocking] “It’s just a percentage of these people that agree with ISIS.  The rest of them are harmless.  They’re harmless.  They’re a sweet, loving, peaceful people.  They’re harmless.”  No, they’re not.  Folks, if I do one thing while I have breath in front of this microphone, this will be the thing that I will do, and that is to remind people that heresy, error, is never harmless.  It is an evil that always has to be opposed and has to be arrested.  If it’s not arrested, then it spreads its errors.

If you were listening to Sermon Sunday with Steve Cunningham yesterday – I’d play the clip but it’s kind of long – you might have heard the priest that was talking about the errors of Russia.  He documented what the errors of Russia are, as they were ushered in by the Leninists, by the Bolsheviks in the revolution in 1917, 1918, 1919, all the way up into the early parts of the 1920s.  What were they?  What were the errors of the Soviet heresy or the Communist heresy?  It remains a horrible, lethal heresy, and we ought to call it what it is.  Of course, America never opposed Communism because it was heretical; America just opposed it because it was heretical to Americanism.  That’s a vast difference than it actually being identified and opposed as a heresy.

What was it that sets Communism apart?  By the by, note that Communism is on the wane.  It was defeated and ultimately collapsed in Soviet, Communist Russia.  It ultimately was defeated, or at least partially defeated, and has collapsed for the most part in red Communist China.  As soon as the Castro brothers are not running Cuba anymore, Communism there, for all practical intents and purposes, will be dead.  When you promote divorce and abortion and apostasy the way Communists do, it makes it kind of difficult to rear the next generation of citizens.

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What’s going on here is, in faith-based, religious terms, theological terms, in the theological debate, which is the only one that matters on this, what’s going on here is, again, nominalist.  There’s nominalism.  Why is that?  Because if you listen to what Maher says, if you listen to what Domenech says, if you listen to what others are saying about this, they are principally correct in identifying Islam as the erroneous threat that it is.  They can’t be completely correct because they won’t make the step that is required.  The step that is required is that it has to be identified as a theological threat.  Until it’s identified as a theological threat, then you’re not dealing with the problem as the problem is going to deal with you.

This is why this argument here – and I’ll keep making this point over and over and over again.  This is why this argument here, [mocking] “These people are just moderate.  Only eight percent of them are radical nutjobs that agree with ISIS.”  Eight percent?  That equals millions in some Middle Eastern countries.  In Indonesia, the number is like 17 or 18 percent.  Again, millions.  You decepticons, you neocons out there, you know why the seven percent or 18 percent number, you know why it matters.  You’re always lecturing us about, [mocking] “You’re just a tiny minority, you pacifist, you non-interventionist.”  I counter that you “war, war, war! Kill, kill, kill! Maim, maim, maim!”, you’re the one that’s actually a minority.  Yet when war fever strikes, what usually runs the day?  What usually carries the day?  What flag is hoisted up when there’s a debate between peaceniks and war hawks?  War, especially if you’re American.

Put that on steroids when we’re talking about Islam.  Even if those people are not radical or are not ready to be converted to radicalism, it doesn’t matter.  They’re only offered three choices in the matter.  The first one is convert.  If you don’t convert, the second one is pay the dhimmitude, pay the tax.  If you don’t do that, the third one is – or become a slave.  That’s 2A and 2B.  The third option is what?  We’ll just kill you and get you out of the way.  Then we’ll loot, rape, rob, and pillage, and take all that you formerly had.  This is the danger here.

Here’s a portion of the – now, I didn’t bleep out the bull word, so it’s contained in there.  If you have tender minds in the car or around the house and you’re listening to this, just be aware that that is the case.  Here we go:

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Bill Maher: . . . news on TV, 56 percent of Americans believe that the Syrian refugees have odds that are at values, their values are at odds with our values. That may not be wrong. If you are in this religion, you probably do have values that are at odds. This is what liberals don’t want to recognize. You may be from a country, as there are many, many Muslim countries, that either have Sharia law or want Sharia law. Those values are not our values. Can I read what David Cameron said? He’s the Prime Minister of Britain, as we know. He said the root cause of the threat we face is the extremist ideology itself. “Let’s not forget our strongest weapon, our own liberal values. We believe in respecting different faiths, but also expecting these faiths to support the British way of life. So often we have lacked the confidence to enforce our values for fear of causing offense.” Then he talks about the horrors of forced marriage. He talks about how the utter brutality of female genital mutilation is too common in his country, nearly 4,000 cases, and that’s just the reported cases.

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Mike:  Wait a minute.  Stop the digital media file right there.  Did you catch that?  He’s not talking about the Sudan.  He’s not talking about Egypt.  He’s not talking about Iraq.  He’s not talking about Iran or Saudi Arabia or Yemen or any other hell forsaken place in the Middle East.  He’s talking about the United Kingdom, 4,000 cases of female genital mutilation.  I didn’t catch that the first time around.  I caught it the second time this morning.  I just wanted to make that point.  He’s talking about events and things that are happening in Great Britain.

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Maher: He talks about how the utter brutality of female genital mutilation is too common in his country, nearly 4,000 cases, and that’s just the reported cases, 11,000 cases of honor-based violence. I’m not saying this is going to happen in America, but this idea that somehow we do share values, that all religions are alike, is bullshit. We need to call it bullshit. [clapping]

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Mike: You’ve got to hear this woman. She’s Canadian, by the way. [mocking] “Come on, Bill. At this time we have to double down on our diversity,” which is another way of saying we have to embrace or we must allow error in our midst. Not only must we allow error in our midst, we must endorse and we must grant error space to coexist alongside what’s not in error. What’s going to happen? What’s easy? Piety or sin?  What’s easier, piety or sin?  Which one is usually going to rule the day?

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Chrystia Freeland: I actually strongly disagree with that, Bill. I think that it is incredibly important, particularly now after the Paris attacks, particularly now with ISIL raging around the world, to stand up for real diversity and to say our diversity is our strength.

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Mike:  Wait a minute.  So now mutilating young girls is now diverse?  Is murder diverse?  [mocking] “We need to stand up for real diversity. I mean, dismembering babies, anybody can do that, but these people have a really macabre way of dismembering babies. That’s some diversity there.”  Folks, it is difficult to believe what you’re about to hear this woman say, yet this is a prevailing point of view now that not just error but outright evil incarnate must become part of our diversity.  It must become part of our culture.  I have news for you.  It already is part of the diversity and it already is part of the culture.

How are you going to put that genie back in the bottle if you’re not going to confront this as a theological issue?  That’s what it is.  You have murder and mayhem on every television, almost every television network, every night of the week.  You have murder and mayhem on video games.  You have murder and mayhem and nudity and porn and soft core porn on public or allegedly or I guess quasi-public broadcasting airwaves.  The evil is already out there.  The diversity is already there.  If the diversity leads to the pathetic cultural, moral conditions under which we live, why would you propagate that?  Because you don’t recognize it as an error.  You don’t recognize it as being wrong.

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Freeland: . . . and to say our diversity is our strength, that is –

Maher: So keeping women as second-class citizens is just diversity?

Freeland: No, I’m not saying that.

Maher: But you are saying that.

Freeland: No I’m not.

Maher: That’s what it comes down to.

Freeland: No, I’m not. What I’m saying is we in Canada –

Maher: You can’t have it both ways.

Freeland: We in Canada are not going to say Muslims are worse than Christians or are worse than Jews or are worse than atheists.

Maher: Not as people; the ideas are worse.

Freeland: No, and their culture is not worse. We also appreciate that ISIL does not represent Muslims. It’s now more important than ever to say that and to stand up for diversity.

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Mike:  Wait a minute.  ISIL is Muslim.  What do you mean they don’t represent – who do they represent?  [mocking] “Yeah, but that’s a sect of Islam.”  No, it’s not a sect of Islam.  As Andrew Bieszad points out – go to the website at MikeChurch.com and listen to that interview from last Monday.  It’s still up there in the 20 days’ worth of archives that you have at your disposal if you’re a Founders Pass member here on the Veritas Radio Network and the Mike Church Show and you’re supporting our efforts here.  If it’s not Islam, what is it?  You want to talk about inconsistent.

Let me give you an analogy.  Do people like Bill Maher and this woman who’s on his show right now – I’ll have to roll the videotape back to get her name for you.  I’ll do it in just a moment here.  What ISIS is doing is not Islam, right?  That’s not Muslims.  Let me ask you a question.  When we’re regaled with news that Roman Catholic priests have abused or molested boys, what is the priest characterized as?  What’s he characterized as, a pilgrim?  What’s he characterized as, a Quaker?  What’s he characterized as, ecumenical?  What’s he characterized as, agnostic?  What’s he characterized as?  You know the answer.  He is characterized as a Catholic.  That’s the problem, you see?  When the Catholic Church doesn’t do this, when the Catholic Church doesn’t do that, but when a Muslim does it, that’s not a real Muslim.  Yes, it is.  If you understand Islam for the theological heresy that it is, it most certainly is what a Muslim does and what a Muslim is instructed to do.

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Freeland: . . . and to stand up for diversity.

Ben Domenech: There are 1.5 billion Muslims. Surely we can agree that there is a portion of them, a portion that does number in the millions – if you take these Pew Polls on the popularity of ISIS –

Sen. Angus King: If it’s one tenth of one percent, it’s 1.6 million. It’s a big number.

Domenech: In Turkey, it’s eight percent, and that’s a country of 75 million people. Let’s assume, for sake of argument, that’s –

Freeland: Don’t you think there are people of every faith that do bad things?

Maher: So you’re saying 8 percent of how many people?

Domenech: Of 75 million.

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Maher: I can’t do math.

Domenech: Six.

Maher: Six million people agree with ISIS and you’re telling me it’s the same as our culture?

Freeland: Our culture is a very diverse one, and I think now it is incredibly dangerous and very wrong to persecute Muslims and to say there is something wrong with being a Muslim.

King: I think Cameron is right. We’ve got to stand up for our values and not say that we’re going to tolerate something that in our culture we don’t accept. On the other hand, one of the tricks, one of the things that ISIS is up to, is to try to get us to clamp down on all Muslims regardless of who they are, where they are, and push them into the ISIS camp. I had a Muslim girl that was a foreign exchange student that lived in our house for a year, four years ago. She was the most peaceable soul in the world. She prayed five times a day. She didn’t even know about September 11^th, couldn’t figure out why those guys would do such a thing. I don’t want to push her away in the process.

Freeland: I agree with the senator.

Domenech: I don’t think you push her away because this is just an elite piety that there’s no difference between these two things.

King: You’re right about that.

Freeland: Are you guys saying the Muslim –

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Mike:  That was Ben Domenech chiming in there going: This is just this elite piety that there’s no difference between the two.  Yes, there is a difference between the two.  Folks, here’s where it gets real.  This is where and why we’re here on the Veritas Radio Network, Mike Church Show and on the Crusade Channel.  This is what is verboten and what you’re not supposed to say.  What has presaged the conversation that you just heard?  What came before it?  What came before it is the denouncement and now the denial – first they had to work at it.  Then they were able to get to denouncement.  Now we have abject denial that there is a truth, one known truth.  What’s reality – conformity – what’s truth?  Conformity of the mind to reality.  What’s the reality of it?  The reality of the situation or what is going on is the same as the reality was in 623 AD.  This is a holy war.  Christians in Europe knew it for 1500 years.  If we don’t get reacquainted with it quick, fast, recognize it for what it is, and treat it for what it is – you heard that number, 4,000 mutilations in the United Kingdom.  That’s the stats they had.  Who knows how many.  Why is it that Islam was viewed as dangerous to Europeans?  Precisely and specifically because it is theologically dangerous.

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