Mike Church Show Caller Bob vs AG on Abortion

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Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – Playing Mike Church Show clip – In order to push and promote his view of how the black man should be treated in the American society and in our civilization and communities, [Martin Luther] King basically had to advocate some form of civil disobedience.  There were laws on the books that made it impossible for minorities to do certain things.  As King viewed them, they were incompatible with a free society.  He counseled people: You need to disobey that law; it’s not legitimate.  Is a law that sanctions the murder of the unborn, is that legitimate?  I think not.  I think people that say it is are the ones that make themselves illegitimate. Check out today’s transcript for the rest…

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Mike:  Bob in Pittsburgh, are you off the forklift now?

Caller Bob:  Yes, sir, I’m ready.

Mike:  Good, how are you?

Caller Bob:  Well, better now that I’m not pushing cows around.  I always wondered about your compatriots’ seemingly inordinate amount of interest in other people’s children.

Mike:  Are you speaking of AG?

Caller Bob:  Yes, sir.

AG:  So would you say you’re not concerned about abortion?

Caller Bob:  I’m concerned about my children.

AG:  Then abortion should be legal, since it’s not your children, across the board?

Caller Bob:  How many children do you have, sir?

AG:  I don’t have any.

Caller Bob:  It never ceases to amaze me, people who don’t have children are always ready to stand there and tell you how you should raise yours.

Mike:  Bob, his point is very valid.  He shouldn’t be concerned about unborn children and oppose abortion?  That’s sticking his nose into other people’s business, isn’t it?

AG:  You can answer that question.

Caller Bob:  We were talking about the compound out in Idaho, will these children have the right to leave and will they be educated properly?  My children can’t just get up and leave my house whenever they want to.

AG:  Bob, I understand that part of it, but can you answer the abortion aspect?

Caller Bob:  I am a God-fearing man.  I think abortion is a thing that is abhorrent in the eyes of God.  Who am I to go ahead and tell people what they can and can’t do?  Somebody who has an abortion, I think they will pay for that when they get to heaven because they killed an innocent —

Mike:  They’re not going to heaven.  If they’re going to heaven, I’d like to know what bus route gets you to heaven after you’ve aborted children, especially if you participated in it.

Caller Bob:  I don’t want to get into a big Bible discussion, but scripture says everybody will stand before the throne of God.  The throne of God says everybody will go to heaven.  It’s whether you stay there or not that’s the question.

AG:  What Bob said, if he says society should have no interest in protecting the lives of the unborn, I would disagree with it, but I don’t necessarily see that as ideologically inconsistent with his saying we shouldn’t be concerned about how he’s teaching his kids.  I would disagree and say you need to look out for the unborn as well as the young and unable to make decisions for themselves.

Mike:  Or defend themselves.  Bob, thank you for the call off the palette.  I appreciate it.  Of course, you could make the next logical step, which to me would be is it my business what that guy is doing with his wife?  If she chooses to be in that relationship and he wallops her every night, that’s her business not mine.  Why don’t we have these laws against domestic violence?  Of course, I’m not sanctioning any of you.  Laws previously didn’t have much to say about the relations between a man and his wife, whether or not he brutalized or used her or whatever the terminology is popular with members of Gal-Qaeda and members of the public today.  Should we not have intervened there?  Should we be minding our own business?  What business is it of ours?  If she wants to remain in that relationship, that’s her business.

You proceed from the point of view that nothing then is, for any other man or any other person, to then worry about or fret.  I would suggest to you that that is not the correct way to look at that.  If you want to live and you want your children to live in the closest thing to a state of grace, which is what God is in, and what the Blessed Mother was in, and what we know that Christ talked about, being in a state of grace with God, if you want man to get as close to that, then some of the things that pass off today as “that’s none of your business,” some of them are the community’s business.  That’s why you have laws.  There seems to be a disconnect between the order of the laws.  Of course, you have your supernatural law, which comes from God, which is eternal/supernatural law.  Then you have your natural law.  Then you have the law of man.  It goes in that order.

One of the foremost promoters of this order of law that I just described is Reverend Martin Luther King.  In order to push and promote his view of how the black man should be treated in the American society and in our civilization and communities, King basically had to advocate some form of civil disobedience.  There were laws on the books that made it impossible for minorities to do certain things.  As King viewed them, they were incompatible with a free society.  He counseled people: You need to disobey that law; it’s not legitimate.  Is a law that sanctions the murder of the unborn, is that legitimate?  I think not.  I think people that say it is are the ones that make themselves illegitimate.

Where the distinction was drawn or should have been drawn was where there was private property concerned.  Where there was private property concerned, it should have just been made clear as society evolved or as people’s sensibilities about race relations evolved, it would become unfashionable.  You would be a pariah in your society if you chose to exclude certain minorities or genders from your occupation or business.  The right should have been preserved, but certainly society ultimately, and people, would reject that as acceptable.  When I say acceptable, I mean I want you to be my best friend and I’m going to do a lot of business with you because you’re a fine, upstanding person.

When I say acceptable, I don’t mean we have thought police running around trying to enforce this thing, which basically is what we have today.  We almost have the precogs now.  We think you may do evil.  We’re going to have to act before you can, all this silliness and obsession with mental health.  The president said the other day, [mocking Obama] “We’re going to have to make sure that a tragedy like Newtown never happens again.”  If you make that promise, that statement, and you pass an executive order and it happens again, whose fault is it?  If you’re selling a bill of goods, [mocking Obama] “You know what I say?  We’re not gonna have any more of these crimes.”  If one does happen, then whose fault is it?

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