You Want Proof of 19th Century U.S. Pacifism? – Filibuster of Senator George Frisbe Hoar

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(Editor’s Note: This transcript was originally posted on 21 December, 2012).

Begin Mike Church Show Transcript – Mike: Here is a website-only exclusive that I dont know if I will get into the entire discussion of it today, the filibuster of Senator George Frisbe Hoar against the American war in the Philippines, but it will come up this week because there is a Republican debate Thursday night up in here. By the by, I will host yet another of our world-famous, live-blogging chatrooms at MikeChurch.com Thursday night for the debate. AG, youll have to stop by one night and make a guest appearance.

AG: I think this ones a late debate, too. I think it begins at 9:00 oclock is what I thought I saw on Fox News.

Mike: 9:00 Eastern? Wow.

AG: Yeah, thats what I saw. Let me check here real quick.

Mike: Thats, well, well just have to nap it up during [chuckling], during the day. But I would like to make reference to this because I would like to call your attention to it. And if nothing else, then sometime today or later on this week you can go and say, Why, you know, I heard that Church character talk about this. Maybe I should go read up on it.

We have been embroiled in a most momentous and what may be the greatest debate of our time over the last 10 years. The debate has only gotten more heated, the sides more polarized, although I believe the middle is expanding, and the middle is against what Im about to talk to you about for just a brief moment. Because this is not necessarily related to todays news, but in a way it is because everything is related to this. And that is the issue and the subject of American Empire.

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We were warned by very wise men, and the most famous of those was Patrick Henry in the Virginia Ratification Convention, that if we centralized our government because of the designing tendencies of evil men, and tyranny being the natural course of central government, that we would ultimately become an American Empire, to be feared around the world and what have you here. Well, this is exactly what has happened. And since September of 2001, the empire has gotten more angry, has become more militaristic, and has expanded itself beyond what anyone could possibly have imagined in 2001. And all of it done under this concept of preemptive striking. And we dont even pretend that its preemptive striking in most cases now. We just pretend that we know better. We know what those Somalians ought to be doing. We know what those Yemeni and Libyans ought to be doing.

By the by, news story yesterday said there are more troops, ground troops, in Libya now than there were last week. Hmm, I thought we werent involved in that. Hmm, I thought we had conservatives in Congress that were going to stop it. Hmm, gee, golly willikers. Back to the point.

Well, all along the course of our history, from George Washingtons farewell address all the way to the Monroe Doctrine, all the way up into the lead-up to the War of Northern Aggression, and then again in the latter part of the 19th Century, when it was being talked about that the United States needed to save the Filipinos from themselves, there were American statesmen that said, no, that is not the American position in the world. We mind our own business. We have entangling alliances with none, free trade with all. And thats the extent of it. We do not go in search of monsters to slay. We do not try to shove our vision or version of a Constitution down other countries throats. They adopt one, great. If they do not, we encourage them to, but we dont compel them to, especially not through force of arms.

Well, since some of you refuse to acknowledge the historical part of this and the danger that is posed by the nonstop, never-ending warfare state to your liberty, I decided that I needed to do some more historical research. Now, I already knew and try to present another angle on this. I already knew the senator from Massachusetts, who went by the name of George Frisbie Hoar, I already knew that he was the lead voice against intervention.

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Subjugation of the Philippines Iniquitous

George Frisbie Hoar (1826-1904)

(1902)

About Senator Hoar: Born in 1826, died in 1904; Member of Congress from Massachusetts in 1869-77; Member of the Electoral Commission in 1877; United States Senator from 1877 until his death.

WE 1 have to deal with a territory ten thousand miles away, twelve hundred miles in extent, containing ten million people. A majority of the Senate think that people are under the American flag and lawfully subject to our authority. We are not at war with them or with anybody. The country is in a condition of profound peace as well as of unexampled prosperity. The world is in a profound peace, except in one quarter, in South Africa, where a handful of republicans are fighting for their independence, and have been doing better fighting than has been done on the face of the earth since Thermopyl, or certainly since Bannockburn. 1

We have answered this question a good many times in the past. The fathers answered it in 1776, and founded the Republic upon their answer, which has been the corner-stone. John Quincy Adams and James Monroe answered it again in the Monroe doctrine…The Republican party answered it when it took possession of the force of government at the beginning of the most brilliant period in all legislative history. Abraham Lincoln answered it when, on that fatal journey to Washington in 1861, he announced that the doctrine of his political creed, and declared, with prophetic vision, that he was ready to be assassinated for it if need be.

The question will be answered again hereafter. It will be answered soberly and deliberately and quietly as the American people are wont to answer great questions of duty. It will be answered, not in any turbulent assembly, amid shouting and clapping of hands and stamping of feet, where men do their thinking with their heels and not with their brains. It will be answered in the churches and in the schools and in the colleges; and it will be answered in fifteen million American homes; and it will be answered as it has always been answered. It will be answered right. 24

You are fighting for sovereignty. You are fighting for the principle of eternal dominion over that people, and that is the only question in issue in the conflict. We said in the case of Cuba that she had a right to be free and independent. We affirmed in the Teller resolution, I think without a negative voice, that we would not invade that right and would not meddle with her territory or anything that belonged to her. That declaration was a declaration of peace as well as of righteousness; and we made the treaty, so far as concerned Cuba, and conducted the war and have conducted ourselves ever since on that theorythat we had no right to interfere with her independence; that we had no right to her territory or to anything that was Cuba’s. So we only demanded in the treaty that Spain should hereafter let her alone. If you had done to Cuba as you have done to the Philippine Islands, who had exactly the same right, you would be at this moment, in Cuba, just where Spain was when she excited the indignation of the civilized world and we compelled her to let go. And if you had done in the Philippines as you did in Cuba, you would be to-day or would soon be in those islands as you are in Cuba. 2

But you made a totally different declaration about the Philippine Islands. You undertook in the treaty to acquire sovereignty over her for yourself, which that people denied. You declared not only in the treaty, but in many public utterances in this Chamber and elsewhere, that you had a right to buy sovereignty with money, or to treat it as the spoils of war or the booty of battle. The moment you made that declaration the Filipino people gave you notice that they treated it as a declaration of war. So your generals reported, and so Aguinaldo expressly declared. In stating this account of profit and loss I hardly know which to take up first, principles and honor, or material interestsI should have known very well which to have taken up first down to three years agowhat you call the sentimental, the ideal, the historical on the right side of the column; the cost or the profit in honor or shame and in character and in principle and moral influence, in true national glory; or the practical side, the cost in money and gain, in life and health, in wasted labor, in diminished national strength, or in prospects of trade and money getting. 3

What has been the practical statesmanship which comes from your ideals and your sentimentalities. You have wasted nearly six hundred millions of treasure. You have sacrificed nearly ten thousand American livesthe flower of our youth. You have devastated provinces. You have slain uncounted thousands of the people you desire to benefit. You have established reconcentration camps. Your generals are coming home from their harvest bringing sheaves with them, in the shape of other thousands of sick and wounded and insane to drag out miserable lives, wrecked i
n body and mind. You make the American flag in the eyes of a numerous people the emblem of sacrilege in Christian churches, and of the burning of human dwellings, and of the horror of the water torture. Your practical statesmanship which disdains to take George Washington and Abraham Lincoln or the soldiers of the Revolution or of the Civil War as models, has looked in some cases to Spain for your example. I believenay, I knowthat in general our officers and soldiers are humane. But in some cases they have carried on your warfare with a mixture of American ingenuity and Castilian cruelty. 4

Your practical statesmanship has succeeded in converting a people who three years ago were ready to kiss the hem of the garment of the American and to welcome him as a liberator, who thronged after your men when they landed on those islands with benediction and gratitude, into sullen and irreconciliable enemies, possessed of a hatred which centuries can not eradicate. 5

The practical statesmanship of the Declaration of Independence and the Golden Rule would have cost nothing but a few kind words. They would have bought for you the great title of liberator and benefactor, which your fathers won for your country in the South American Republics and in Japan, and which you have won in Cuba. They would have bought for you undying gratitude of a great and free people and the undying glory which belongs to the name of liberator. That people would have felt for you as Japan felt for you when she declared last summer that she owed everything to the United States of America. 6

What have your ideals cost you, and what have they bought for you? 7

1. For the Philippine Islands you have had to repeal the Declaration of Independence. 8

For Cuba you had to reaffirm it and give it new luster. 9

2. For the Philippine Islands you have had to convert the Monroe Doctrine into a doctrine of mere selfishness. 10

For Cuba you have acted on it and vindicated it. 11

3. In Cuba you have got the eternal gratitude of a free people. 12

In the Philippine Islands you have got the hatred and sullen submission of a subjugated people. 13

4. From Cuba you have brought home nothing but glory. 14

From the Philippines you have brought home nothing of glory. 15

5. In Cuba no man thinks of counting the cost. The few soldiers who came home from Cuba wounded or sick carry about their wounds and their pale faces as if they were medals of honor. What soldier glories in a wound or an empty sleeve which he got in the Philippines? 16

6. The conflict in the Philippines has cost you six hundred million dollars, thousands of American soldiersthe flower of your youththe health and sanity of thousands more, and hundreds of thousands of Filipinos slain. 17

Another price we have paid as the result of your practical statesmanship. We have sold out the right, the old American right, to speak out the sympathy which is in our hearts for people who are desolate and oppressed everywhere on the face of the earth. 18

This war, if you call it war, has gone on for three years. It will go on in some form for three hundred years, unless this policy be abandoned. You will undoubtedly have times of peace and quiet, or pretended submission. You will buy men with titles, or office, or salaries. You will intimidate cowards. You will get pretended and fawning submission. The land will smile and seem at peace. But the volcano will be there. The lava will break out again. You can never settle this thing until you settle it right. 19

Gentlemen tell us that the Filipinos are savages, that they have inflicted torture, that they have dishonored our dead and outraged the living. That very likely may be true. Spain said the same thing of the Cubans. We have made the same charges against our own countrymen in the disturbed days after the war. The reports of committees and the evidence in the documents in our library are full of them. But who ever heard before of an American gentleman, or an American, who took as a rule for his own conduct the conduct of his antagonist, or who claimed that the Republic should act as savages because she had savages to deal with? I had supposed, Mr. President, that the question, whether a gentleman shall lie or murder or torture, depended on his sense of his own character, and not on his opinion of his victim. Of all the miserable sophistical shifts which have attended this wretched business from the beginning, there is none more miserable than this. 20

Mr. President, this is the eternal law of human nature. You may struggle against it, you may try to escape it, you may persuade yourself that your intentions are benevolent, that your yoke will be easy and your burden will be light, but it will assert itself again. Government without the consent of the governmental authority which heaven never gave can only be supported by means which heaven never can sanction. 21

The American people have got this one question to answer. They may answer it now; they can take ten years, or twenty years, or a generation, or a century to think of it. But it will not down. They must answer it in the end: Can you lawfully buy with money, or get by brute force of arms, the right to hold in subjugation an unwilling people, and to impose on them such constitution as you, and not they, think best for them. 22

We have answered this question a good many times in the past. The fathers answered it in 1776, and founded the Republic upon their answer, which has been the corner-stone. John Quincy Adams and James Monroe answered it again in the Monroe doctrine, which John Quincy Adams declared was only the doctrine of the consent of the governed. The Republican party answered it when it took possession of the force of government at the beginning of the most brilliant period in all legislative history. Abraham Lincoln answered it when, on that fatal journey to Washington in 1861, he announced that the doctrine of his political creed, and declared, with prophetic vision, that he was ready to be assassinated for it if need be. You answered it again yourselves when you said that Cuba, who had no more title than the people of the Philippine Islands had to their independence, of right ought to be free and independent. 23

The question will be answered again hereafter. It will be answered soberly and deliberately and quietly as the American people are wont to answer great questions of duty. It will be answered, not in any turbulent assembly, amid shouting and clapping of hands and stamping of feet, where men do their thinking with their heels and not with their brains. It will be answered in the churches and in the schools and in the colleges; and it will be answered in fifteen million American homes; and it will be answered as it has always been answered. It will be answered right. 24

Note 1. From a speech in the United States Senate in May, 1902.

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