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Zimmerman, The Justice Department, And States Rights

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Background

Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – I can still remember the day when it was decided or announced that the DA in Seminole County was going to bring a second-degree murder charge against him.  Some of the big-wig television attorneys were saying, “There is no way you’re going to get a second-degree murder conviction on this guy.  The evidence is not there.  Why would any DA even take this case?”  The answer is that they had to.  They were told by the federal leviathan that they had to take the case.  Check out today’s transcript for the rest…

 

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Mike:  While this was going on, the Obama administration’s Injustice Department headed up by Eric Holder has floated the idea out there that, [mocking] “We’re not gonna let him get away with this.  We’re gonna have civil rights charges brought against this Zimmerman character.”  Really, really?  Andy McCarthy writes this yesterday, “Holder Revives Bogus Civil-Rights Investigation Against Zimmerman.”

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The Obama Justice Department is reviving its bogus civil-rights investigation of George Zimmerman, despite a Florida jury’s acquittal of Zimmerman yesterday on all charges. The trial demonstrated a dearth of evidence that he intended to kill Trayvon Martin, much less that he killed him with an intent to deny his civil rights. The New York Daily News reports on DOJ’s announcement:

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“Experienced federal prosecutors will determine whether the evidence reveals a prosecutable violation of any of the limited federal criminal civil rights statutes within our jurisdiction, and whether federal prosecution is appropriate in accordance with the Department’s policy governing successive federal prosecution following a state trial,” the Department of Justice said.

road-to-independence-BH-RTIDE2-detailThe announcement came as welcome news to civil rights leaders, who began calling for the federal charges almost immediately after the verdict was read in Seminole County court in Sanford, Fla.

“We are outraged and heartbroken over today’s verdict,” NAACP President Benjamin Jealous said in a statement.

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Mike:  Why are they outraged and heartbroken?  Wasn’t one individual spared the punishment that would go along with a second-degree murder conviction?  The other thing that ought to be a little bit of a curiosity is that George Zimmerman appears that he could be, if you wanted to pursue this from this angle, someone that could benefit from the protection of an organization like the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

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Holder’s minions, it is worth remembering, consulted with the NAACP before the Justice Department dropped the New Black Panthers voter intimidation case that the government had already won.

With due respect to Peggy Noonan, the Justice Department is already deeply involved in, and couldn’t have more disgracefully politicized, the George Zimmerman case.

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Mike:  Folks, you have to remember, and I talked about this last week, after the Martin shooting, this was page six news in this area of Florida.  It was only made big news when Reverend Al Sharpton took the traveling show and went to Florida and made it big news…

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There would have been no Florida prosecution of Zimmerman absent the extortionate pressure brought to bear by Attorney General Eric Holder.

We knew that even before learning last week that Justice’s “Community Relations Division” [Mike: What in the hell is that?] colluded at taxpayer expense with the NAACP and other agitators to demand that charges be brought against Zimmerman — managing, in the process, to get Sanford police chief Bill Lee cashiered for daring to do his job faithfully, tune out the politics, and decline to arrest Zimmerman because the evidence didn’t support it.

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republican-shirt-ifyouhavetoask1Mike:  I can still remember the day when it was decided or announced that the DA in Seminole County was going to bring a second-degree murder charge against him.  Some of the big-wig television attorneys were saying, [mocking] “There is no way you’re going to get a second-degree murder conviction on this guy.  The evidence is not there.  Why would any DA even take this case?”  The answer is that they had to.  They were told by the federal leviathan that they had to take the case.

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Recall that contemporaneous with the spring-2012 demonstrations against Zimmerman [Mike: By the way, if you’re George Zimmerman, this is no picnic for him. He’s going to have to go into hiding. He’s not going to be running around doing a book tour anytime soon for fear of his own life. That’s not me saying that, that’s his attorney saying that.] that the Justice Department abetted — and with President Obama’s nod-and-wink incitement that, if he had a son, the son would “look like Trayvon” — Holder sped down to Florida. There, he sang the praises of race huckster extraordinaire Al Sharpton, joining Rev. No Justice, No Peace in calling for Zimmerman’s scalp. Holder’s M-O was to threaten a federal civil rights prosecution if Florida failed to act. I wrote a column about the Holder-Sharpton spectacle, the already patent deficiency of the murder case against Zimmerman, and the absurdity of a companion civil rights prosecution. I think it holds up pretty well:

. . . This week, our esteemed attorney general canoodled with Reverend Al at the annual convention of the “National Action Network,” home base for the infamous huckster (that would be Sharpton, not Holder — sorry for any confusion). It is difficult to imagine another attorney general in American history sucking up to such a race-mongering charlatan. The Sharpton record was succinctly catalogued on the Corner by Victor Davis Hanson: inciting murderous riots; slandering Jews, Mormons, and homosexuals; libeling a state prosecutor in the course of championing Tawana Brawley’s fabrication of a racial “hate crime.” Yet there was Holder, ladling cringe-making praise on Sharpton for “your partnership, your friendship, and your tireless efforts to speak out for the voiceless, to stand up for the powerless, and to shine a light on the problems we must solve and the promises we must fulfill.”

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Holder is currently in “partnership” with his fast friend on the highly charged Trayvon Martin case. In the days before the nation’s chief federal law-enforcement official lionized the CEO of the nation’s racial-grievance industry, Sharpton had been in Florida, threatening that his “action network” — as in “direct action,” the community-organizer’s stock-in-trade — would “move to the next level” if authorities in Sanford, Fla., failed to arrest George Zimmerman, the man (or, if you prefer the New York Times Agitator’s Glossary, the “white Hispanic”) who shot Mr. Martin, a black 17-year-old. [Mike: Can you be white and Hispanic at the same time? That means you check two boxes on your federally-approved employment job application. It doesn’t say check all boxes that apply, it says check a box, I thought.]

With such notches on his belt as Crown Heights and Freddie’s Fashion Mart, there’s not a lot of mystery involved when the Reverend Al starts conjuring “the next level” of “action.” Still, never what you’d call a master of subtlety, Sharpton — between inciting mobs with demands to “arrest Zimmerman now!” — expressly threatened to “occupy” the city of Sanford.

article-v-pamphlet-adThe nation’s chief federal law enforcer reacted to these threats of lawlessness with paeans to Sharpton’s besotted history. Beyond that, Holder has been doing plenty of agitating on his own. He bragged to Sharpton’s crowd that he’d ordered his Justice Department to open an investigation into the Martin shooting three weeks ago. He stood ready, he vowed, to file “civil rights” charges if warranted by “the facts and the law.”

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Mike:  Bear in mind, ladies and gentlemen, Andy McCarthy was a U.S. attorney in New York.  This is the man who successfully prosecuted the blind sheik, Sheik Abdel-Rahman for the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.  We’re not just talking about an editorialist.  McCarthy has a little gravitas in these matters because he’s actually done this sort of thing, meaning prosecuting people like Zimmerman.

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Just one problem: Nothing about the known facts comes close to triggering federal jurisdiction.

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Mike:  I don’t understand how the feds would have any jurisdiction here to start with.  [mocking] “But Mike, it’s under civil rights.”  This is the part of the Injustice Department and federal  meddling that drives people like me insane.  These police powers are what James Madison called municipal.  Police powers respond to and are responsible to municipal authority.  Madison explains this very well in his report of 1800 over why Virginia was constitutionally correct in its action to nullify the Alien and Sedition Acts, or to interpose against them.  Madison’s statement was that the federal government, or the general government as they would have called it at the time, didn’t have any police power jurisdiction to try to force something like a sedition law or the arrest of what were previously alien friends. If municipal authority enforced the laws in the State of Virginia and Kentucky, then only Virginia’s laws would apply in that matter.  The same thing would be true in Florida if you were still living under the same constitution.  I just thought I’d drop that in.

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The case at hand involves the excruciating loss of a 17-year-old’s life. We do not know exactly what happened. We do know, however, that there is virtually no chance Martin’s race was the cause of his killing. Quite apart from Zimmerman’s lineage — which the Times would be reporting as “Hispanic,” not the newfangled “white Hispanic,” if he had been on the receiving end of fired shots — Zimmerman is of a mixed-race family. Not only does he have black relatives, he has reportedly donated his time to tutor black children…. In the context of the case, Martin’s race is sheer happenstance. Its principal relevance is the divisive opening it presents for opportunistic racialists such as Sharpton and Holder. [Mike: This is just great background on this case. Here’s McCarthy’s little rant from a year ago on why there is no federal jurisdiction here.]

The framers saw policing as a state matter– that’s why there was no U.S. Justice Department for the first 83 years of constitutional governance. One needn’t be blind to slavery and structural racism to understand that 21st-century Florida has moved beyond these blights on the nation’s history. There is zero reason to believe that, without Eric Holder hovering, Florida’s police, prosecutors, and citizens could not be trusted to do justice.

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There is, moreover, grave reason to believe Holder’s looming involvement will taint the case. In fact, it is already tainting the case….

Not every wrong is a criminal wrong. Responsible prosecutors respect this premise as the Constitution’s safe harbor for the innocent; it is not a mere inconvenience to be maneuvered around. Doing justice means justice for everyone, including the suspect. While it may be news to Mr. Holder, that proposition holds even if the suspect’s name is not Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. If negligence, even lethal negligence, has occurred, its victims are not without a remedy — they can sue civilly. The criminal law, however, is not the solution to every legal problem, and its invocation where it has no place is monstrous.

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Mike:  The Injustice Department will probably promote this and rattle the cages and see where they can go with this.  Mr. Zimmerman also could be liable just as OJ Simpson was, as Andy points out, to a civil case being filed against him.  As I said, he’s not out of the proverbial woods just yet.  It’s no holiday to have been acquitted of charges that you did not intentionally murder a 17-year-old boy.  Few people seem to have the bravery or courage to speak up to the truth of the matter, that is that a guilty verdict could not be obtained and therefore Mr. Zimmerman is innocent.

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When you talk about justice, when you go into one of these courtrooms, usually outside the courtroom they have some representation of the scales of justice.  Usually there’s some statue or statuette of a toga-clad female holding a set of scales.  The scales are supposed to be evenly balanced.  What is around the female’s eyes?  A blindfold.  She’s supposed to be blind.  There’s not supposed to be any race involved here.

Isn’t it illustrative of our current malaise that here we are, after having elected twice now the first minority, the first black president, that we still can’t seem, or in some people’s minds we can’t ever seem to cross or elevate our affairs above the lowest common denominator level that there is still rampant, unrepentant racism at work in everything that we seem to do or everything we legally do?  To quote Rodney King, “Can’t we all just get along?”

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  1. Jason Bienia on July 22, 2013

    Deart Mike,
    One day within the last two weeks you had a caller who got you going about history. You made your common comment about how listeners don’t like to hear history, he disagreed, and so do I.
    Then you reviewed for him for the millionth time or so, the explanation of how the costitution works, and the relative roles of the states and why, because may be he was a new listener.

    It was perfect and short and easily understandable. Do you have something printed on the website that I could download for my brother? Or do you know which day that was and I’ll look for it?

    I do my best to explain it, and I am getting better the more times I go through it. This call would really help.

    Thanks for your understanding and patience with all of us who are following you toward the path of enlightenment.

    Jason Bienia


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