Caller Tim In Indiana – Morals Are Not Ethics

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Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – Error doesn’t have any rights.  What you’re telling me and what people are listening to right now is horrifically erroneous.  There are morals and they can be known.  There’s truth.  We can know it and we can repeat it and we should repeat it.  Check out today’s transcript for the rest….

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Begin Mike Church Show Transcript

Mike:  Hello, Tim.  How are you doing?

Caller Tim:  Thanks for taking my call.  I heard you declare today was Free Phone Thursday.  Using my vast powers of deduction, it’s normally on Friday, but tomorrow is the first day of Labor Day weekend, which indicates to me you may or may not be live on air tomorrow.

Mike:  I will not be here tomorrow.  No, I will not.

Caller Tim:  That’s why I called today.  Thanks for taking my call.  We have new words appear in our dictionaries periodically, and sometimes old words get blurred as to their meaning.  Monday I heard you use morals and ethics in the same sentence indicating probably the same idea but may not have been what you meant.  That’s what it sounded like.  Today I heard you say “my moral life.”  There’s a difference between morals and ethics, and it’s a pretty vast difference, too.  Morals are subjective.  Morals are concerned with what is.  Abortion is a moral standard of the USA today.  They can change.  I’m sure you’ve heard people say: That guy has the morals of an alley cat.  The alley cat’s morals may not be your morals, but the alley cat is entitled to his morals.

Mike:  So where do morals come from?  While you’re assailing my grammatical skills, and since I’m —

Caller Tim:  I’m not assailing you, Mike.

Mike:  Since I’m on the scaffold here — I don’t mind.  Please continue.  I’d just like to know, where do these morals that change come from?  Where do we get them from?

Caller Tim:  I think it’s from the word mores in the Latin, if I’m not mistaken.

Mike:  I didn’t ask for a literary definition or the etymology, E-T-Y-M-O-L-O-G-Y.  See, I can even spell.  I asked where the morals come from.

Caller Tim:  They’re whatever you think it is.  They’re individual.

Mike:  No.  If it’s whatever I think it is, then why isn’t murder moral?  Was John Wayne Gacy a moral character then?

Caller Tim:  According to his morals, yes.

Mike:  We’re not asking about —

Caller Tim:  Mike, you asked about murder.

Mike:  Folks, do you see — hold on here, sir.  Error doesn’t have any rights.  What you’re telling me and what people are listening to right now is horrifically erroneous.  There are morals and they can be known.  There’s truth.  We can know it and we can repeat it and we should repeat it.  There is a moral code.  A moral code is established.  It’s not what you think it is.  You’re not free, you don’t get a vote on what a moral is.  A moral has been passed to us as part of the supernatural law.  Supernatural law supersedes, it reigns over the natural law.  If you’re going to be invincibly ignorant on this and deny that there’s a supernatural law, we don’t have anything to discuss.  Phone call and conversation is over.  There either is or there is not a supernatural law.  What you just told me is there isn’t.  John Wayne Gacy is free to make his own up.  This is the error of modernity.  By the way, this is also the root of many of the errors in philosophy that we are possessed of today.

You may have heard, there’s this thing called — I think it’s called the 10 Commandments, I want to say.  Is it nine or is it ten?  I lose track.  [mocking] “You know what?  That’s an opinion, Mike.  Some say there’s eight and some say there’s ten.”  Oh, that’s right.  [mocking] “Abortion, that’s the moral standard of the USA.”  No, that is a moral abrogation.  That is an abrogation of a moral standard.  The moral standard is thou shall not murder.  That’s the moral standard.  That’s the moral code.  I didn’t make it up.  I didn’t get a vote on it.  I don’t want a vote on it.  I’m perfectly happy humbling myself and saying: That’s the moral code.  I like that, thou shall not murder.  I’m not going to murder.  That’s a logical fallacy.  That’s not moral.  It goes beyond the commandments, by the way.  See, you can use these times — you can say: No, morals are what we say they are.  That’s anarchy.

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