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Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – If there’s a kingdom, we know kings always have thrones; right?  There’s always a throne.  We know who’s seated at the right of God the Father.  That would be Jesus the Son.  In the Book of Revelations, we are informed, and tradition informs us, that the queenship of Mary, that she is also there as the Queen of Heaven, Queen of the Angels. Check out today’s transcript for the rest….

Begin Mike Church Show Transcript

Mike:  1954 is the year.  11 October, 1954, Pope Pius XII establishes the feast.  As you said, that is the history behind it.  People think, though – this is one of the things you and I can talk about.  Many people, especially those that don’t have a devotion to and don’t honor the mother of Christ with the proper honor and think there’s something untoward about us honoring her, they look at this and go: Yeah, you guys just made that up in 1954.  Nice job.  Usually when this happens, it’s because a pontiff, a pope is seeing something happening in the world and knows that Our Lady or whatever particular saint or whatever the commemoration is has a special power to help all of us fallen men and women combat it.  It always come out of, without fail, a tradition that is longstanding and has been with us for eons.  Such is the queenship of Mary.  Just because it wasn’t written down and given a particular day does not mean that the queenship has not been observed faithfully and with great love and charity and piety by Christians going all the way back to the time shortly after the cross; right?

Dr. Brian Kiczek:  That is correct.  It kind of confirms what they always thought, that we worship Mary, which we know we do not worship Mary.  She is our mother.  Nobody worships their own mother on Earth.  We’re not going to worship our mother in Heaven, either.  We only worship God.

Mike:  You can make a direct line, too.  One of the things when you’re praying the rosary, speaking of worshiping God, is there’s acknowledgements in there, throughout the whole thing, throughout all three of the mysteries, there’s an acknowledgement in there, the Kingdom of God.  If there’s a kingdom, we know kings always have thrones; right?  There’s always a throne.  We know who’s seated at the right of God the Father.  That would be Jesus the Son.  In the Book of Revelations, we are informed, and tradition informs us, that the queenship of Mary, that she is also there as the Queen of Heaven, Queen of the Angels.  Anyone that’s ever read the Litany of Mary knows all this.  The Queen of the Seas.  There’s the poem Maristella, the beautiful prayer about the queen of the seas, queen of the stars.  She’s Queen of the Angels.  She’s Queen of Heaven.  She is at Our Lord’s right hand.  One of the reasons why you have a Marian devotion and that we acknowledge her is because she can intercede directly to the throne.  In other words, do sons – Brian, do you still listen to your mother?

Dr. Kiczek:  All the time.

Mike:  Do sons still listen to their mothers?  When my mother talks to me, if she asks me something or tells me something, yes, I listen.  The same is true of the heavenly holy family.  That’s why you appeal to Mary.  She also has a role beyond that of the intercessor, though.  This is prefigured throughout the entire Old Testament.  There is reference after reference.  From Judith to Ruth to – you mentioned one a moment ago.  There are women who appeared throughout the Old Testament that are types, what we call types.

Dr. Kiczek:  Bathsheba.

Mike:  Right.  They are types of Our Lady.  Not only are they types, that’s not just me saying this.  They’re written of as having special powers, special abilities, and special graces; aren’t they?

Dr. Kiczek:  That is correct.  A lot of Protestants say, “Why don’t you just go straight to Jesus?”  Of course, we can and we do.  They also ask for the pastor to pray for them.  They ask for other human beings, sinners like themselves, to pray for them, but they seem to forget that those that are now in Heaven – we believe they’re in Heaven.  The Book of Revelations, they’re all in Heaven.  Everybody is in Heaven, so they’re much closer to God.  There’s nobody closer to God than Mary.  She can put in a good word for you and pray for you if you ask her.  She’s just waiting for your word like a mother.  Give me a call.  Are you going to call me, son?  Of course, if we do, she puts in a good word.  For me, it’s the easiest way to Jesus.  Jesus is up there.  He’s in Heaven.  It’s not easy to follow Jesus, but Mary makes it easier.

Mike:  I have a couple things to add to this historically speaking.  We know that Pope Pius XII established the Feast of the Queenship of Mary on this day in 1954.  Franciscan Media has this story, and I found this last night.  I was reading this and I went: Okay, that’s a pretty good explanation.


But Mary’s queenship has roots in Scripture. At the Annunciation, Gabriel announced that Mary’s Son would receive the throne of David and rule forever. At the Visitation, Elizabeth calls Mary “mother of my Lord.” As in all the mysteries of Mary’s life, she is closely associated with Jesus: Her queenship is a share in Jesus’ kingship. We can also recall that in the Old Testament the mother of the king has great influence in court.

[end reading]

Mike:  Brian, you see this even in medieval movies.  They’re doing a reenactment of whatever king it may have been, King Henry – who was the one who had St. Thomas Becket killed?  Was that King Henry II?  You see the mothers in the court.  Even in the TV show Game of Thrones.

Dr. Kiczek:  I knew we were getting there.

Mike:  It is a very old tradition.  Thinking about that for a moment, it only makes sense.  It’s interesting that the only female missing in the Trump White House to give the president direction is his mother.  His wife and his daughter are certainly there playing their roles as queenship of Trump; right?

Dr. Kiczek:  Hopefully his mother is in Heaven and praying for him because he needs strength.


In the fourth century Saint Ephrem called Mary “Lady” and “Queen.” Later Church fathers and doctors continued to use the title. Hymns of the 11th to 13th centuries address Mary as queen: “Hail, Holy Queen,” “Hail, Queen of Heaven,” “Queen of Heaven.” The Dominican rosary and the Franciscan crown as well as numerous invocations in Mary’s litany celebrate her queenship.

[end reading]

Mike:  The feast is a logical follow-up to the assumption, now celebrated, of course, today – there’s an awful lot that we could talk about today.  I was thinking of this.  Children are going back to school this week and next week.  If not then, then the week after.  If they’re going to a public school, Heaven forfend but some of them are, they’re going to be thrust into this denying of the natural order, transgender-soaked, Hades-infused, diabolical culture of death.  It would only make sense to me, doc, that parents could pray and could ask Our Lady to protect their children as their queen as they venture out into school; don’t you think?

Dr. Kiczek:  My wife and I just came out with a book for children called The Easiest Way to Jesus.  It’s a Marian consecration for children.

Mike:  Really?

Dr. Kiczek:  She’s really the easiest way.  It’s a very simple, short book.  It’s from  I didn’t get a chance to tell you about it, but I knew today on the queenship of Mary we could talk about it.  Basically the children, if they’re protected by Mary and Jesus, no matter where they go, they’ll be protected.  The family that prays together stays together, so, definitely as a family, if you’re concerned about public school, obviously you do your best to get your child out of it, but sometimes you have no choice.  That’s where God wills that your children go, probably his permitting will, but also that your children would be a witness to truth and justice and the American way.

Mike:  I’m on the Dolls from Heaven website because I wanted to see this.  You must have just come out with this.

Dr. Kiczek:  Click on the blog and it’s right there.

Mike:  I got it.  Dr. Brian’s website, one of them, is  I had never seen this, a Marian consecration for children.

Dr. Kiczek:  It just came out yesterday or Sunday.  Didn’t have much time to let you know about it or anything.

Mike:  You know what you are, my friend?  You’re a publishing tycoon.  You’re a mogul.

Dr. Kiczek:  I was thinking about you before we did this interview and we were talking about writing a book last time.  Everything that we’re doing just seems like too much.  I remember, a long time ago, thinking: Why haven’t they done a book for children to consecrate yourself to Mary?  This was like 20 years ago.  You don’t think you’re going to do it.  You just think: There’s a hole here.  I wonder what that hole is for.  Ninety-nine percent of the time, if you see a hole, you’re probably the one supposed to fill it.  You may not want to or may not feel like it, but eventually God will help to convince you that it’s a good idea for you to fill up that hole.

Mike:  I’m just reading the description.  “The book includes 33 full-color pictures of Our Lady and thirty-three days of short teachings about Our Lady and a short prayer.”  Obviously you’re mimicking the formula of De Montfort [ph?].

Dr. Kiczek:  I guess the inspiration was 33 Days to Morning Glory by Father Michael Gaitley, which I highly recommend.  That’s definitely more for adults.  We did it with our children as well, but there’s nothing for children.  It was kind of following that theme.  Then, of course, Dolls from Heaven is all about inspiring children to become saints.  It was a perfect tie-in.  Dolls from Heaven published it.

Mike:  This is something that’s been lost in the modern era.  Today most parents don’t fancy that their children are or even should become saints.  Instead, they want them to turn out like vagabond tramps like Katy Perry and the rest of them that are so immodestly dressed on TV that they make grown, virtuous men blush.  I had to look down at the ground or turn it off.  There’s not a lot of pining away for little girls to become saints these days.  Matter of fact, I wrote a story, and I got about 100,000 views on Facebook, most of them negative, wondering why the parents of Katy Perry, which she did the Super Bowl act, of course horribly immodestly acting and dressed, and led probably tens of millions of men into mortal sin temptation that evening.  I wondered why parents don’t want their children to turn out like, for example, St. Catherine of Siena, and instead turn out to be like Katy Perry.  The reason I always choose St. Catherine of Siena is because she defies – or you could choose St. Teresa of Avila, either one of the two – is because she defies this characterization of nerdy, slow, stupid, ugly, fat, whatever girls that didn’t fit in and that’s why they became nuns.  Not St. Catherine of Siena.  She was the beauty and the prize of the entire village, which is why when she did go that route, that’s why so many followed her.  She gave up all the charms of the world.  You guys need to make a St. Catherine of Siena doll.

Dr. Kiczek:  My daughter’s patron saint is St. Catherine of Siena.  We love her very much.  Keep praying for Dolls from Heaven so that we can make hundreds of saint dolls.

Mike:  I absolutely will.  Then there’s the other one that you can point to.  She wasn’t fat.  She wasn’t a town outcast.  She wasn’t stupid.  In fact, many regard her as a doctor of the church.  There’s two, actually.  There’s St. Teresa of Avila who was beautiful.  She was ravishing.  The men from the village around, they had to be very careful of the nuns because it was customary – you could go and pay your respects at the convent.  I think I read the story one time that St. Teresa of Avila, she liked to run around barefoot.  One day a nobleman came calling and wanted to make a donation.  He remarked that she had lovely feet.  It so mortified her that she was never seen without her feet covered again.  She was scared of having her feet seen.  You look at the way women and girls dress today, and feet is the least of the concern, isn’t it?

Dr. Kiczek:  It’s the mark of our times, which are changing quickly.  The darker things get, the more the light is going to shine.  Even though I’m afraid of the things that are coming, in a way, I feel a lot of peace, too, because I know that God is in control.  He timed eclipses.  He timed everything just at the perfect time for us to see him and look for him.  Since I learned the hard way, I’m not afraid of the hard way for anybody else, I just wish they would learn the easy way.

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