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Bring Back The Militia

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Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript“Mr. Lind, this is what decepticons, alleged conservatives that call themselves conservatives, this is what they think is conservative, barking out orders for the rest of the known universe to obey.  You heard it the other night with Senator Rubio.”  Check out today’s transcript for the rest….

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An American national-security policy designed for an era of this new style of war would have two aspects: security overseas and security at home. Both would look very different from current policy.

Security overseas means avoiding entanglement in Fourth Generation wars. Involvement in conflicts with non-state entities will result in our defeat, as it already has in Lebanon, Somalia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. [Mike: Folks, it’s going to happen again in Syria. It’s going to happen again if we’re dumb enough to team up with the Saudi Arabians and wage war against the Yemeni in Yemen.] Not only do America’s armed forces not know how to win such wars, they have little interest in learning. Comfortable with their expertise in reducing the art of war to the mechanics of putting firepower on targets, they do not want to adjust to wars where the moral level is more powerful than the physical level. [Mike: That’s a mouthful there, isn’t it? What is this moral level you speak of, Mr. Lind?] Nor is Fourth Generation war much good for justifying expensive programs for complex, high-tech weapons.

How do we stay out of non-state wars overseas? [Mike: I have a suggestion. Elect President Ron Paul. I’m not saying, I’m just saying. Or maybe President Rand Paul.] By adopting a defensive grand strategy. Instead of trying to give orders to the rest of the world . . .

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Mike:  Mr. Lind, this is what decepticons, alleged conservatives that call themselves conservatives, this is what they think is conservative, barking out orders for the rest of the known universe to obey.  You heard it the other night with Senator Rubio, [mocking] “Well, with American leading the world, let me tell you, buddy, the world’s a better place.”  Really?  How come you guys keep complaining about how rotten things are everywhere else in the world?

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Who is it that’s the biggest, baddest military out there?  Who is it that’s trying to marshal and trying to organize and then trying to direct all the affairs of all those that are engaged in all these conflicts?  ‘Murica.

By the by, it’s not going to work out for the Soviets – I shouldn’t call them Soviets.  It’s not going to work out for the Russkies either.  Those of you that think, [mocking] “What about Putin?”  What about Putin?  If Putin is dumb enough to try it, let him.  If Putin wants to wage state-sponsored wars against militias in the Middle East, why not let him?  Hell, we ought to maybe fund him.  [mocking] “Send funds to the Russians!?”  We sent funds to the people that blew up the World Trade Centers.  Perhaps you’ve heard of them.  They’re called Saudi Arabians.  Look it up.


We would stay out of other peoples’ business and quarrels. We would still engage with other countries and peoples, but we would do so through private means, trade, and serving as a moral example.

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Mike:  How can you serve as a – this just baffles me.  How can you serve as a moral example when your calling card is “military option is always on the table”?  How is it possible that you can have any moral authority when you negotiate from the point of view that if things don’t go your way you’ll nuke someone or you’ll blow them to kingdom come?  Does that even make any sense?  Let me take you back to 1965.  Dr. Reverend Martin Luther King on this subject:

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Mike Douglas: Dr. King, why did you decide to urge Negroes not to fight in Vietnam?

Dr. Martin Luther King: Well, I think my view has been a little distorted at that point. I haven’t only urged Negroes not to fight. I feel that the war is so unjust, so abominable, so futile and bloody and costly that nobody should be fighting there. I haven’t limited my concern to just the American Negro, although I know we are dying in disproportionate numbers there, and we are on the losing end both there and at home, because as long as the war in Vietnam continues, social programs will inevitably suffer here at home.

12 militiamenDouglas: Don’t you think that your remarks have created doubts about the Negro’s loyalty to his country?

King: Some people may feel that. I don’t think our loyalty to the country should be measured by our ability to kill. I think our loyalties to the country should be measured by our ability to lead the nation to higher heights of democracy and to the great dream of justice and humanity.

Douglas: You honestly feel, Dr. King, that the war in Vietnam could be stopped now without harm to this country?

King: Well, there are two ways to deal with it. One is a unilateral withdrawal. I don’t oppose that, because I feel that . . .

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Mike:  Wait a minute here.  You want to know why the CIA had to take this guy out?  Unilateral withdrawal, you mean we just leave Southeast Asia?  Just imagine if King had been listened to and other guys like him.  Just imagine if King had been listened to.  We wouldn’t have the movie Apocalypse Now.  We wouldn’t have Robert Duvall running around, “I love the smell of napalm in the morning.”  We’d have none of that.  You wouldn’t have Charlie Sheen starting in Platoon.  You wouldn’t have tens upon tens of thousands of valorous, honorable men who were maimed, wounded, psychologically damaged, killed in that god-awful, unjust war called the Vietnam War.  That is not a knock on any Vietnam vet.  It’s the exact opposite.  What were you doing there?  The political class that sent you there should have been listening to Martin Luther King.  What you’re hearing here – you won’t hear this anywhere else.  What you’re hearing here is the defense of just war theory.  That’s what King is basically bringing to the table.

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King: . . . this is a possibility. After all, France withdrew unilaterally from Algeria, withdrew without a military victory. And this did not lessen France’s prestige or influence in the world. If anything it increased its prestige in the world.

Douglas: France is not the power that this country is.

King: I think that’s an even greater reason why we should restrain our power. There’s always the danger that any nation will abuse its power. I think our power must be much more than military power. We don’t need to prove to the world or anybody our military power. We don’t need to . . .

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Mike:  He goes on to say it ought to be moral power.  How are you going to get that?  Start with humility.  Back to William S. Lind, “Logic of a Modern Militia.”  Find the story in its entirety at today in the Pile of Prep.  Please visit us at and sign up for a Founders Pass Membership today.  Tell a friend.  The show is live.  It’s streaming live.  It’s free.  It don’t cost nothing.  [mocking] “Mike, how much does it cost to listen to your stream in the morning?”  It’s free.  Don’t cost nothing.  Back to Lind:


state militiaWe would stay out of other peoples’ business and quarrels. We would still engage with other countries and peoples, but we would do so through private means, trade, and serving as a moral example. That was America’s policy through most of our history, and it served us well. It is tailor-made for today’s world.

That would meet half of the challenge. The other half is preserving security here at home. Keeping our nose out of other peoples’ business will reduce the incentive for them to attack us here.

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Mike:  Stop making common sense, Mr. Lind, please.  You’re driving me nuts.  Don’t you watch GOP debates?  Have you not heard little Ricky Santorum and Marco Rubio and Jebediah Bush and all the rest of them?  Just yesterday I thought we were going to get beheaded here in the studio.  Marco Rubio said if we’re not at war then we’re not safe.


But attacks will still come, both as imports and from groups and causes whose home is America.

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Mike:  If we’re going to do this, then we must take the other step.  The other step is, in the silliness – and it is silly – where we believe that we ought to, as a civilization, pursue plurality, I mean religious plurality.  See: Hungary, any country in the age of faith.  I can hear somebody going, [mocking] “So, you want a theocracy?”  You have a theocracy.  Mordor is your theocracy.  The Supreme Court, you’ve got nine guys in black robes that sit up there as though they’re some sort of gods dictating moral policy, dictating family policy, dictating this.  What do you call that?  If you’re going to roam about the countryside and order people to accept sodomy marriages, what are you doing?  Call it what you will.  I call it a civil religion because that’s what it is.  You either obey or we’ll ostracize you.  If that doesn’t work, then we’ll really come after you.  We’ll make it so you cannot be gainfully employed anywhere.  How about that?  Back to William S. Lind:


At present, we meet this threat through a continual expansion of the national-security state . . .

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Mike:  That’s right.  Senator Rubio, two nights ago: Let’s add a trillion dollars of military spending.  For what?  For what purpose?  I really think – somebody ought to ask Rubio the question: If we discover life on the ice world of Hoth, should we send an ambassador or an army?  Think about the way your average ‘Murican’s brain is trained to think about things.  When aliens are discovered in science fiction movies on other worlds, what usually fails?  Peace.  “We come in peace.”  Humans try to negotiate with the aliens.  [mocking] “Hey, ET.  I dig your funky-looking eyes, man.  That’s really cool.  You drop acid for blood.  I wish I could do that.”  What usually fails?  Peace.  We transfer our own military bellicosity to the rest of the known universe.  We just assume because America wants to bomb everyone back to the stone ages that the aliens want to bomb everyone back to the stone ages.

Senator Rubio, NASA has recently discovered an ice world of Hoth, and there are giant, white, furry creatures roaming about it.  Should we send ambassadors or an army?  [mocking] “I am for the universal security of the United States.  When America is engaged with ice monsters on Hoth, the universe is a safer place.  We’ll send an army.”  Imagine the hysteria: Obama Negotiates Nuclear Arms Treaty with Hoth – Conservatives Outraged.  [mocking] “Come on, Mike, you’re just making stupid things up.”  No, I’m not.  I’m illustrating the folly of how most people think, the folly of how most “conservatives” think about this.

Telephone number if you’d like to be on the program, 844-5CRUSADE., please become a member.  Share this show with your friends.  [mocking] “Mike, nobody is going to listen on their phone.”  That’s all I listen to.  I didn’t even know I had a radio in my Kia until my phone died the other day.  Stream the show live.  It’s free.  I can look at the number of listeners that are connected currently.  You people, please assist.  Back to William S. Lind:


At present, we meet this threat through a continual expansion of the national-security state, to the point where getting on an airplane is like going through Checkpoint Charlie. The national-security state erodes our liberties, it costs immense sums, and it often does not work.

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Mike:  By the way, someone should ask one of these presidential “conservative” candidates what their view is of continuing for the ‘Murican taxpayer to have to pay the TSA.  You people that are young, you youngsters out there – if you were born after 2002, you don’t know what it’s like to travel through an airport where there’s no blue-gloved agents from the TSA making you take your shoes off, strip searching you, etc., etc., making you submit yourself to this embarrassing and this invasive wave gizmo – have you noticed when you go through the porno scanner, have you noticed the position they put you in?  If I was black and they made me go through it – remember how they were all running around with their hands up after the shooting of – who was the – I’ll think of it when the point is moot.  It’s the same position they put you in in the airport.  Go into a porno scanner and what do they do?  Throw your hands up, citizen.  Citizen, you will obey your federal overlords.



Where it will continue to fail is in countering the “lone shooter,” the person who is motivated by some larger entity but acts entirely on his own. With guns readily and legally available almost everywhere in this country (unlike bomb-making materials), forces that want to strike here can easily work through “lone shooters.” There is no plot for the national-security state to unravel, no group for it to penetrate.

The answer to this challenge again comes from our past. We need a militia that ideally includes all male American citizens. In a world where the state no longer has a monopoly on war, we must return to a pre-state world where every able male is a warrior. The Latin word “populus” originally meant “army.”

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Mike:  How many of you knew that?  By the way, the Latin word for general was empera.  What do we get from empera?  Emperor.  This is the Mike Church Show here live from the Bulldog Kia Studio in beautiful – I can’t say downtown Mandeville because we’re not.  We’re near beautiful downtown Abita Springs.


Mike has been talking about many different ways to deal with the American Union & it’s attack dog, the “Federal” government –There’s Article V & Nullification too.

Unlike our colonial militias, however, these new militiamen would have neither weapons nor organization. Rather, they would take a pledge that whenever they encounter a “lone shooter,” they will stop him using whatever they have at hand: throwing rocks or chairs, tackling him, beating him unconscious, running over him with their car. If they happen to be armed, fine; if not, they attack anyway.

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Mike:  I like this guy.  He’s thinking about this the way we ought to be thinking about this.  By the by, how many of you would have opposition to your youths signing up, let’s say at the age of 14, to be trained by your county or parish to be in the militia?  This is how the Swiss do it.  They have 144 cantons.  That’s where the term county comes from.  There’s some translation there but canton, county, pretty much same thing.  If you live in one of those cantons in Switzerland, at a certain age – I think it’s 17 in Switzerland – you are automatically inducted.  It was Michael Brown doing the wave TSA screen.  We’ve all done the Michael Brown was my point, and we do it because of the national security state, because we worship it.  We love it.

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