Memo To NeoCONS – You Don’t Need A Nuke For Genocide, Ask The French

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Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – “Westermann, in command of the blues pursuing them westwards back into Brittany, ordered no quarter to be given. ‘The road to Laval is strewn with corpses’, reported one of his men, ‘Women, priests, monks, children, all have been put to death. I have spared nobody.’ Perhaps 10,000 died during this retreat. On 23 December, finally, the remnant of the Catholic and royal army turned to face its pursuers at Savenay. Only 4,000 or 5,000 were left in any state to fight, although twice that number were crammed into the little town. Two-thirds of them were destroyed in the battle and mass shootings which followed. [Mike: He means mass executions.] The ‘Great War of the Vendée’ was over, but republican vengeance was not.”.  Check out today’s transcript AND CLIP OF THE DAY for the rest….

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Mike:  I don’t wish, I would prefer that the United States had no nuclear devices.  I would also prefer that the Soviets, the Russians had none, and anyone else that has any.  The logical fallacy that is mutually assured destruction is just that.  There’s nothing just in it.  Yet this has been promoted, [mocking] “Well, you have to have these things so you can deter.”  So you can deter what?  [mocking] “So we can deter genocides.”  Well, the Nazis didn’t have a nuke.  I seem to recall there was a genocide there.  There was the murder of millions of people.  As I pointed out to the gentleman yesterday, the French in 1792, ’93 and ’94 didn’t have any nuclear incendiary weapons, yet they managed to slaughter one-quarter of a million Catholics in the Vendée.

I hold in my hand a book you ought to all own, after you get Life of Washington.  Some of you ought to own it because some of you probably don’t care about any of these things.  John Bolton told you to think a certain way and

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that’s what you’re going to do.  This is The Oxford History of the French Revolution by William Doyle.  This is regarded as one of the best desk reference books on the French Revolution.  It’s a long read.  It’s just crammed full of the history of the revolution.  It’s kind of in a linear fashion, but it does bounce around a bit.  I’d just like to read you something about this.  We can’t allow the Iranians to get a nuke because they’re going to kill everyone on Earth.  There will be mass genocide, mass murder, etc., etc.  I don’t have a crystal ball.  I don’t pretend to be a soothsayer.  I cannot tell you that that’s not going to happen.  However, the acquisition of a nuclear weapon is not necessary to execute a genocide.  It’s also not necessary to execute a genocide against people of religious faith, namely Catholics.  William Doyle, The Oxford History of the French Revolution, page 256:

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There, on 17 October, they defeated the rebels . . .

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Mike:  He’s talking about the blues, the Republican Guard of the Constitution Congress of France.  They wore blue coats.  If you ever wonder why French legionnaires are pictured in blue coats, because that was the color of the revolution, blue.  It actually should have been red or crimson but it was blue.  He’s talking about the republican army.

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There, on 17 October, they defeated the rebels . . .

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Mike:  The rebels were the Vendéans, the people that lived in Vendée that refused to sign the oath of obedience and refused to renounce their Catholicism, and encouraged their priests to not take the oath to become what were called juring priests, meaning they would take their orders on matters of faith from the Constitution Congress and not from the Pope or not from the Magisterium.  Orders had then been issued: You go and tell those people if they don’t do it, we’ll arrest them and try them.  Like so many, they were executed.  Some in the Vendée didn’t like the stories they were hearing about men and women being dragged out to barges in the middle of the river, stripped naked, tied together so a hole could be cut in the bottom of the boat.  People could sit on the banks and eat bread and cheese laced with Poupon mustard and cheer the festivities of watching Christians drown.  You don’t have to be a Mohammedan or a Muslim, a Muslim extremist to visit a genocide upon a people over their beliefs.  That’s just a little bit of setup.  Here, from William Doyle, The Oxford History of the French Revolution.  This is not some crackpot.  Oxford Histories are Oxford Histories because they’re supposed to be reliable desk references.

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There, on 17 October, they defeated the rebels decisively and killed several of their leaders. Only now, pursued by triumphant republicans, did the Vendéans break out of their home country in a bold and desperate bid to link up with the British. They crossed the Loire and struck north under Stofflet, making for the nearest port to British territory, Granville, on the Cotentin peninsula opposite Jersey. As they went they were joined by the chouans from the disaffected countryside of upper Brittany, and by the time they reached Granville on 14 November they may have been 60,000 strong. But the British were not there. There were plenty of troops and supplies in Jersey, but news of the march only reached their commander, via London, on 26 November, and even then he did not know that Granville was their destination. The port was well fortified and defended, whereas the Vendéans had no siege train. By the time British warships appeared off Granville on 2 December the rebel army was in retreat, far to the south. By the fourth they were once more at Angers, but this time the republican garrison held firm, and they were unable to get back across the Loire. They turned north again, and on 12 December republican forces at last caught up with them at Le Mans, where they were routed in a night battle fought in pouring winter rain. Many escaped, but in complete disorder. Westermann, in command of the blues pursuing them westwards back into Brittany, ordered no quarter to be given. ‘The road to Laval is strewn with corpses’, reported one of his men, ‘Women, priests, monks, children, all have been put to death. I have spared nobody.’ Perhaps 10,000 died during this retreat. On 23 December, finally, the remnant of the Catholic and royal army turned to face its pursuers at Savenay. Only 4,000 or 5,000 were left in any state to fight, although twice that number were crammed into the little town. Two-thirds of them were destroyed in the battle and mass shootings which followed. [Mike: He means mass executions.] The ‘Great War of the Vendée’ was over, but republican vengeance was not. In a macabre but untranslatable pun, the area was now to be called Vengé [Mike: I translated that loosely. Vengé means vengeance.] Over the spring of 1794 general Turreau sent ‘infernal columns’ of blues to crisscross the heartland of rebellion, ravaging, destroying, and killing everything in their path. ‘Comrades,’ declared one of his subordinates to his men, ‘we are entering insurgent country. I order you to deliver to flames everything that can be burnt and to bayonet any locals whom you meet on your way. I know there might be a few patriots in this country; never mind, we must sacrifice them all.’ Even republican troops sickened by scenes of gang rape and infanticide dared not protest. Historians are still arguing about how many people perished during the whole episode of the Vendée uprising, but a quarter of a million on the rebel side alone does not seem an overestimate. Certainly the population of the region did not receive to its 1790 levels until the 1820.

Alongside casualties on this scale, even the number of victims who perished in the judicial Terror of Nantes seems modest. Yet nowhere else was the Terror so destructive. Forty-two per cent of the death sentences during the entire Terror were passed in the three departments most affected by the Vendée rebellion, and the various special courts established in the Loire-Inférieure, Nantes’s department, accounted for 3,548 capital sentences. Carrier, whose previous record at Rennes, dealing with mere Federalists, had been moderate and conciliatory, believed that fanatical royalist counter-revolutionaries deserved far harsher treatment. As at Lyons, the guillotine could scarcely cope with the flood of victims: yet the prisons were overflowing, ravaged by epidemics, and there was not enough food to feed innocent citizens, let alone condemned traitors and rebels. These considerations led Carrier to approve perhaps the most notorious expedient of the whole Terror: the noyades. On 19 November some 90 priests were executed by sinking them, hog-tied, in a holed barge in the Loire. In the six weeks that followed six other batches of victims, many though not all of them non-juring priests convicted (or sometimes just suspected) of exciting the fanaticism of devout rebels, were disposed of in the same way. Perhaps 1,800 perished altogether in the noyades, and their bodies were washed up on the tidal banks of the Loire for weeks afterwards. But the citizens of the Nantes, repeatedly threatened by insurgents who reputedly gave no quarter, raised little objection to such methods, or to the hundreds of shootings of armed rebels that Carrier also authorized. They believe they would have been massacred if the whites had triumphed: the Vendée rebellion had begun, after all, with massacres of good republicans.

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Mike:  The number quarter of a million should shock.  It’s hard to conceive.  How many of you live in cities today that have populations of around 250,000, 300,000, 200,000?  Imagine if you will an invading army invading your city, herding everyone, men, women, children regardless, herding them into prison camps so that they could be summarily executed, some of them by going to the local river, tying them back to back, hands tied together so they can’t swim, can’t escape, tying their legs together, and then bringing them out into the middle of the river and then sinking the barge that they’re on as a method of execution.  The point in bringing this up is, number one, nuclear weapons are awful.  They are an abomination to humankind.  I know some of you love them, can’t wait to use them, think places in the Middle East ought to be turned to sheets of glass.  You probably run around and call yourself pro-life at the same time.  Nuclear weapons, any nuclear device is an abomination.  I do not wish for the Iranians to achieve a nuclear device.

My point in bringing this up is, number one, there is no indication that if the United States goes in and starts bombing the snot out of the Iranian, or undergoes an invasion of some sort, you don’t know what would occur, what unintended consequences would occur in the aftermath.  How many tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands if not millions of innocents that had nothing to do with any of these affairs would be killed?  Does any of this matter?  No, because you’ve been told, [mocking] “They’re gonna get a nuke and they’re gonna use it.  Reagan wouldn’t have allowed it.” [/private]

I asked a question yesterday of someone who was writing me about this.  I said: Answer the following query.  Why did we allow the French to get a nuke?  I just demonstrated to you that even without a nuclear device, the French people are capable of massive genocide.  Genocide, that’s what it is.  That’s what was visited upon the Vendée.  They didn’t need a nuke to do that.  Historians still don’t want to discuss this and they don’t want anyone to start investigating this.

They don’t want anyone to make any movies or anything about this.  If it is ever revealed what the French people did to the Vendée, then the reputation of France as some sort of a paradise for hippies and peaceniks will go out the proverbial window.  That’s not to say that the French of today are the same as they were during the Great Terror.  I would suggest that many of the French today are probably worse.  They’ve been completely divorced now from any atonement in the afterlife or any atonement through eternity for any of their sins.

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