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Mike Church is Convinced Texas is Poised to Secede

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Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Audio and Transcript – There are people in Texas now that are talking about secession, talking about Texas the nation, that I believe are really serious about it.  They’re serious about it not just because of the election or the results of the election.  They’re serious about it because they believe that the way of life they have enjoyed and some of the traditions and customs that make them Texan is threatened by the menacing general government of the United States.  I agree with you.  You are threatened.  We’re all threatened.  This is a threat.  It is a far more grave threat than the king of Great Britain ever dreamed of being.  Check out the rest in today’s audio and transcript…

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Mike:  Here’s a headline for you: “Citizens in 15 states file petitions to secede from United States.”  Before you get all excited about this — people send me this and they’re excited about it.  Understand that these petitions have been filed at WhiteHouse.gov.  Of all the places on Earth where you should probably not be filing petitions to secede, I would say that WhiteHouse.gov is probably number one.  Nonetheless, The Examiner writes about this.


As a result of Tuesday’s election, Americans in 15 states have filed petitions to secede from the United States, Regina Conley reported at Red Alert Politics on Saturday.

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Mike:  One thing we did not talk about last week is that the nitwits in Puerto Rico voted to join the union.  They voted for statehood.  Why?  For what purpose?  Some of us are trying to get out and you’re trying to get in.  Take our word for it, you don’t want to do it.


So far, she says, residents in Louisiana, Texas, Kentucky, Colorado, New Jersey and ten other states, have filed petitions…A petition for New York to secede was file by “C R” of Grand Forks, North Dakota on Saturday. Examiner’s Sheila Carroll says those other states include Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia and Oregon. On November 7, the day after the election, “Michael E” from Slidell, Louisiana, filed a petition at the White House “We the People” site, requesting that Louisiana be allowed to secede…quoting the Declaration. As of this writing, the petition has 8.162 signatures and needs 16,838 to reach a goal of 25,000. On Friday, a Texas resident created a petition to secede in order to protect the standard of living Texans now enjoy.

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Mike:  I was in Texas this weekend.  I spent most of the day Friday, all day Saturday, and half the day yesterday in Houston.  You know what we had for breakfast yesterday?  Do you guys have a dim sum anywhere near where you live, or one you’ve been to in the DC area?

AG:  Maybe but not on my rotation of restaurants to hit up.

Mike:  They don’t have kale shakes there, but they do have Chinese broccoli?  It looks like kale and it’s bitter like kale.  Anyway, went to a dim sum yesterday and had authentic — I have to tell the story.  At dim sum they have a cart.  The ladies come around with a cart.  It’s mostly steamed potstickers, what we would call them.  One of the ladies comes around with a seafood cart.  I see the shells.  I say, “Those must be some mussels.”  Wrong answer: sea slugs.  Have you ever seen a sea slug?

AG:  I try to avoid that.

Mike:  Would you ever eat a sea slug?

AG:  I don’t think so.  I don’t think that or escargot is ever going to be on my to-do list.

Mike:  You want to hear the worst part?  They don’t cook them.  It looked just like you’d think a giant slug would look like meandering down your driveway that you either pour some salt on and watch him dissolve or run over with your car, except he’s got a shell.  I realize that these were probably delicacies in the Far East and what have you, but it didn’t do anything for the old appetite, looking at the sea slug.  The rest of the dim sum was great.

The reason I brought this up, I’m in Houston at a ReFounding Father Society meeting for the Houston Chapter, which is a very active one.  They have some very great guys there that are very committed to changing things and getting active in their state.  As I explain to the standing-room-only crowd in the Oak Room at the place where we had met — we had a great crowd.  The ReFounder part of the ReFounding Father Society is all about restoring an education and a civic and statesman-like virtue into ourselves and our sons, and by proxy the women, which is, in my humble estimation, something that is totally missing from our vulgar, uninformed, anti-intellectual age.

It’s one of the things that I think leads people to be able to accept without shame, without a loss of pride, government assistance, and allows people to convince themselves that it’s okay to take redistributed wealth, whether they take it through their company to discharge duties that are fundamentally unconstitutional and not part of the federal charter, or whether it’s just to take money.  [mocking] “Give me some money for a grant.  Give me some welfare.”  I’m not talking about people that are genuinely in real, dire straits and in need and unable to dig ditches as Tesla had to do to make ends meet in between inventions.

That’s what the ReFounding Father Society is about.  Go to ReFoundingFatherSociety.com to learn more and start your own chapter.  There were six requests for chapters over the weekend. Thank you very much. I bring up Texas and ReFounding Father Society because I noticed some change from the last time I was in Houston, which was in May.  Perhaps people are jaded by the result of the election.  As I’m reading this story about states petitioning to secede, I notice — I like to listen.  I like to listen in large groups, listen to what people are talking about.  I heard some things that were intriguing, peculiar, let me say, not peculiar in a bad way, just peculiar as I was not expecting them and they were peculiar to hear.

There are people in Texas now that are talking about secession, talking about Texas the nation, that I believe are really serious about it.  They’re serious about it not just because of the election or the results of the election.  They’re serious about it because they believe that the way of life they have enjoyed and some of the traditions and customs that make them Texan is threatened by the menacing general government of the United States.  I agree with you.  You are threatened.  We’re all threatened.  This is a threat.  It is a far more grave threat than the king of Great Britain ever dreamed of being.

So I went to a party.  My buddy’s little Pop Warner football team had their championship game on Saturday.  After the game, the parents of the tots met at a house and had a barbecue and watched the Alabama game.  It was a good time.  I got into a conversation with one of the wives of the little boys that was on the team.  To my shock and amazement, when she found out what it was that I do here, host a talk radio show, her question to me was, “What do you think about secession?”  This is a housewife.  I did not take her to be someone who is politically active and out planting Romney/Ryan signs in people’s yards and what have you.  I find myself in the position of having to talk people down off the kneejerk ledge.  “I think it’s something you should seriously consider, but you should seriously consider what it is you’re about to do and think it through.”  She said, “I think that may be really all we’re left with here in Texas.”

I told my buddy yesterday when we were tooling around going to the dim sum, because we had to travel a good distance — one of the things you notice — AG, you lived in Texas so you probably can reflect on this, too.  One of the things you notice in Texas that you don’t see anywhere else, or I haven’t seen anywhere else.  Maybe it exists and I haven’t seen it.  Let me just say that.  I don’t want to say it doesn’t exist because I’ll get a wrath of hate mail.  Just chill your jets.

On the freeways, interstates, state highways that are four, six, eight lanes around the Houston area, and they have the same thing in San Antonio, too, the Lone Star is engraved or carved into many of the concrete structures that hold up the superhighways.  Before you start going “That’s the silliest thing I’ve ever heard,” no, it’s not.  On something that has probably been bought and paid for with federal money, people in the State of Texas just instinctively, reflexively have engraved into that edifice — yeah, your silly little freeway was authorized by the Congress or in the Transportation Act or whatever, but we built it here and it’s ours.  You’re not getting it back.  That’s the way I take that to be.  They’re very proud, I guess is the point, the fact that that structure was built in Texas, and probably by Texans.  That is a sign of what I would say is a healthy patriotism.

Remember the young lady that called last week that was despondent the day after the election, I think her name was Katie?  I talked her down off the ledge and informed her that no, your country is not the one that voted for Obama.  The member states in the union gave their electoral college votes to Obama.  Your country is Tennessee.  You did not vote for Obama, you voted for the other guy.  I think there is a very healthy and very recognizable and very potent resurgence of that spirit of ’76.

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Michael Meehan

We find ourselves at this juncture, where active talk of secession is occurring again, because politicians, mostly under the label of “progressive” or “liberal” have been trying to legislate “fairness” since the late 19th century. Those like William Jennings Bryan, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and Barack Obama have attempted to interpose government in between the people and the consequences they suffer as a result of natural law. Shielding people from the consequences of their actions….bailing them out when they’ve borrowed more than they can pay, propping up businesses when they have failed, all violate the actions of natural law, and simply encourage more bad decision making, poor choices in life, and failures both economically, and morally.
It’s been viewed as “not fair” to have to take charity from a Church that insists that you hew to it’s basic beliefs. It is “not fair” to have to live in poverty when you’ve squandered all that you have. It isn’t fair that you don’t get a trophy because you are not capable of winning the race. All of these “unfair” things teach us something, they signal us that we are expending our energies in the wrong way, and signal us that we need to be more moral, more frugal, or pursue other endeavors besides participating in the race that we’ll fail to win. Eliminating and/or masking these signals pushes us to continue to expend effort in non-productive ways, and reduces the wealth and productivity of society as a whole.
Secession gives us an opportunity to forge a society that allows these signals to flourish and enable each individual to attain their highest and best, even if failures occur along the way.

Judy Avery

Shawn, Yes, the NC Constitution says this:

Sec. 4. Secession prohibited.
This State shall ever remain a member of the American Union; the people thereof are part of the American nation; there is no right on the part of this State to secede; and all attempts, from whatever source or upon whatever pretext, to dissolve this Union or to sever this Nation, shall be resisted with the whole power of the State.

Mike, wouldn’t this mean that our State Constitution would have to be amended before we could secceed?



I personally signed the Texas petition, on the White House site, not because I think the fraud-in-chief is going to take it seriously, but because I’m emboldened to let [this] administration know who I am, and that I’m pissed enough as a Patriot to go straight to their face and tell them.

I believe this is foretelling of the battle that is brewing, between an un-Constitutional federal government, their constituents, and [actual] Patriots of this God blessed nation.

I think the intent of the people who signed the petition [at] the White House site, was to make a point.

Truth be said, it’s quite clear that there are enough people in this nation who are fed up with the gross abuse of the Constitution, to the point where [we are serious] about action.

Just my 2 cents.

You’re a Patriot “King Dude!” Godspeed.
– Louis

Will Davis

Nailed it (as usual) Mr. Church!

Mark B

Help Virginia get started and sign. This blue state needs all the help we can get to get away from this tyrant.



These petitions would best be served on the states legislature or on the group leaders, and not Washington. If they wish to secede as a stare, thn state leadership should be petitioned. We run the risk, here, that was warned against by Thomas Paine, that being a person taking control of a mob. Mr Paine was calling for a convention to have a government ready to relavent the one we were leaving. He foresaw the leadership vaccuum. Citizens who decare their independants risk that vaccuum.

The question is this, can your state or group actually stand alone? Would you become a North Korea inside the America? Wyoming, my country, has large energy resources, but we would absoutly require agreements if reciprocity with the USA government, or our surrounding states, and all the immigration issues, commerce issues… Secession is a great idea, but it would require more than just a declaration. After al, they may actually let you do it. Then who will take care of grandma?



So, I was sitting here this early evening watching my local TV news, WRAL in Raleigh, NC, when I was taken aback shortly after 5:30pm est they aired a short 2 minute segment on the news about the relatively large number of petitions filed with the WhiteHouse.gov site asking for independence from this union. One of those states with a petition is of course North Carolina, so they went out and asked the gentlemen who started the one here in NC the typical questions of “why” and whatnot……they also brought on the opposing point of view from our states attorney general, of course he said it is a waste of time to even bring it up and try since it is illegal, etc, etc. Not too surprisingly the broadcast team and reporter seemed to agree with this opinion or interpretation as “fact”, citing that in 1869 the Supreme Court ruled that it was unconstitutional to secede and that also, under the North Carolina constitution, secession is “illegal”.

First and foremost, WOW! I am happy that this idea is actually being brought up and “discussed”, no matter how dismissively, on major news broadcasts. Nice step forward. Proof positive that there is in fact a little whisper to breeze of change starting to flow.

Secondly, I now have to expedite and perform my due diligence now and scour the North Carolina state constitution to find where this supposed illegality is mentioned.

Third, now to figure out how exactly going about trying to explain to the dismissive, perpetual union loving throngs that the supreme court overstepped its authority and that secession is “legal”. I tell them that it is a human right and since when can “free” people not exercise their god given liberty and be free? As I am sure you know, this is often not enough. They want facts, proof and evidence to be placed in front of their face saying it not illegal. I guess by starting to read some Kirkpatric Sale again and practicing my politicing!

I wanted to share this little nugget of hope with you all. I got a little excited when it aired and it made me smile.

Rocky Mount, NC

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