Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – Here’s another question about the Plan B pill: What if in counseling with a priest a parent decides this is not the best thing and no you cannot have the Plan B pill? It wasn’t just the parent’s decision. Now you have the church involved. Does the President and the Obama administration and Kathleen Sebelius, do they then force feed: No, she wants it; we’re going to forbid the parson from seeing the child and forbid the parent from forbidding the child. We’re going to see to it that she gets the abortifacient. Check out today’s transcript for the rest…
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Mike: Archie is in Florida. Archie, you’re next on The Mike Church Show. How you doing?
Caller Archie: All right. How you doing?
Caller Archie: Who’s going to take responsibility when these girls OD, number one? Number two, not too long ago they just said on the radio, some guy gave his girlfriend a pill and now he’s being charged with murder. Isn’t that the same thing? Now the government is being, you know.
Mike: Wait, I didn’t get the second part. Who gave her the pill that killed her?
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Caller Archie: Down here in Florida, a guy got his girlfriend pregnant. He didn’t want to be a daddy, so he slipped her a morning-after pill, which killed the baby. Now he’s being sued and tried for murder.
Mike: By whom?
Caller Archie: By his girlfriend.
Mike: I saw this story. She didn’t know about the pill, right? She didn’t know that she was consuming the pill.
Caller Archie: Right. Who’s to say a little 11-, 12-, 13-year-old girl, who’s to say they know exactly what the hell they’re doing? They can’t even drive a car or anything, but all of a sudden they’re old enough to kill babies?
Mike: Well, some people say this is an issue of freedom. According to StanB999, anyone that is not for the 100 percent wholesale endorsement of 10-, 11-, 12-, 13-, 14-, 15-, 16-year-old girls having access to abortifacients, and needing the abortifacients because of the activity that necessitates it, is some kind of a prude who is full of you-know-what. Thank you very much, StanB. As a matter of fact, I’m going to re-tweet that so you guys can re-tweet back to this jerk. I don’t know. That’s an intriguing case. Does she have proof that she was — I guess she has an at-home pregnancy test, right…
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Caller Archie: I don’t remember exactly how they proved it, but I guess they did a drug test on her and I guess the chemical was in her body or whatever. Whatever happened to just being a freaking parent and controlling your kids? Now government’s got to control them? I’m a parent of four. I’ve got three boys and one girl. If my girl ever come home and told me she’s pregnant, I’d kill her.
Mike: One of the things we’ve lost sight of, Archie, of course as long as human beings have been human beings, you’ve had the ability to do exactly what it is that we’re talking about. For young people being young people, hormones being hormones, reproductivity being reproductivity, of course it has happened. It has been discouraged in days gone by, or in eras gone by, and usually discouraged because of the damage that used to be done to the reputation of the girl or of the woman and/or the necessity of marriages that weren’t planned in advance. Marriages used to be very much planned in advance, or many of them were planned in advance.
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I was reading with great interest The Confessions of St. Augustine the last couple days. I try to read three pages a day, that way I can knock the book out in 60 days. I’m at page 39 now or so. The first 39 pages are all about Augustine confessing about what a horndog he was, how even when his mother told him that he shouldn’t be a horndog, his father told him he shouldn’t be a horndog because it was going to interfere with his studies. His mother kind of told him that he shouldn’t be a horndog and he shouldn’t be going down the Roman baths, and he shouldn’t be soliciting young ladies who are married and what have you, and he shouldn’t be a horndog because it was going to interfere with his acceptance of the Christian faith, which he did not accept until he was almost 30 years old. Augustine came up a month or so ago when we were talking about Mark Sanford and forgiveness and contrition.
Just reading a few more of Augustine’s confessions, I’m reading this going: Man, it sounds like Augustine would have fit right in as Otter in Animal House, if you remember the character from Animal House. For this man to have been sainted, to have achieved sainthood, to have been canonized by the church, I can’t wait to get the latter part of the book and see what happens to St. Augustine. He is a saint today, one of the fathers of the Roman Catholic Church. I can’t wait to see how this conversion takes place. What I find unbelievably thrilling to me is Augustine perceived himself to be a licentious lout of the worst variety. Yet there was contrition for him. He does confess to having stolen, too. The principle parts of his confessions are his lust for the pleasures of the flesh instead of lusting for the grace of God and a relationship with God.
It’s this kind of story and book that used to be read, and tales like this used to be read and told. I think they are necessary. You have to consider that there are going to be those who do these things. Of course there are. We’re humans; we make mistakes. There are going to be those who seek another path and are going to find error in what they did and ask for contrition. You have to tell the bad part of the story, but you back it up with there is a bright day on the other side of it. We seem to be convinced of the idea that all we do is tell the bad side of the story and the good side of the story is that we have science and drugs to heal us of what we used to call sin, mortal sin. I think that is a large part of what is missing today.
Here’s another question about the Plan B pill: What if in counseling with a priest a parent decides this is not the best thing and no you cannot have the Plan B pill? It wasn’t just the parent’s decision. Now you have the church involved. Does the President and the Obama administration and Kathleen Sebelius, do they then force feed: No, she wants it; we’re going to forbid the parson from seeing the child and forbid the parent from forbidding the child. We’re going to see to it that she gets the abortifacient. [mocking] “Come on, Mike, that’s farfetched.” Really? Have you been following the law of late?
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Mike, I agree with a lot of what you say but you have it all wrong with Plan B. You say that the government actions take decisions out of the hands of parents and that is not correct. You need to focus on what the government ALLOWS vs. Prohibits. If the government allows something (girls taking Plan B) then it is up to the parents to teach their children what to do. For example, children are allowed to purchase bleach at the store, and it is the responsibility of parents to teach the children the dangers of bleach. The same goes for purchasing gasoline – children are allowed to purchase it so the responsibility is with the parents, not the government. If the government prohibits access to Plan B, then and only then does the government take the decision out of parents. It’s a good thing that the government allows people to have freedom.
Your point is a non sequitir-it does not follow. My argument is the government is mandating that pharmacy’s sell the product,is cloaking to product as “safe” because its agency, the FDA says so. If a state tries to outlaw sale of this, watch the federal bench move to strike each attempt. Your POV that things are legal but parents teach proper use/discretion is only valid so far as the PARENTS, who makes up the State, having no compelling interest to proscribe or ban products for sale to minors.Your Walter Block argument is good in Anarchocapitalistastan.