Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – “There will be no more protection for religion. You can’t have the secular state and Beelzebub running the show and saying that almost anything that one can imagine is permissible, and then have a religion or religious people that say: No, it’s not. The two are going to clash. You are going to have the secular atheists and they’re going to clash with the secular permissive people who have no devotion to any faith, any canon, any orthodoxy, any tradition, any liturgy, nothing. They’re going to clash. The people that have devout, heartfelt, lifelong religious devotions are going to be told: Too bad, get rid of them. If you don’t get rid of them, you will pay. My only question is: In what state are we going to build the Catholic bastille?”
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The New York State Division of Human Rights (DHR) has ruled that the Roman Catholic owners of an Albany-area farm violated the civil rights of a lesbian couple when they declined to host the couple’s same-sex “marriage” ceremony in 2012.
Robert and Cynthia Gifford, who own and operate Liberty Ridge Farm in Schaghticoke, were ordered by DHR… (members continue reading below)
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Mike: Can I ask a question? What happened to the whole New York is ready and open for business and they want everyone on earth to move in? Do they want businesses to move in that don’t do same-sex marriages? I don’t recall seeing that on the television commercial. Back to the story:
… were ordered by DHR Judge Migdalia Pares and Commissioner Helen Diane Foster to pay $10,000 in fines to the state and an additional $3,000 in damages to the lesbian couple, Jennie McCarthy and Melissa Erwin for “mental pain and suffering.”
Mike: In other words, ladies and gentlemen, the Giffords were fined and were ordered to fork over a substantial part of their fortune because they held a Catholic point of view and would not deviate from it in this one instance. Separation of church and state my behind. The two are totally separated now, and one is now on the verge of losing any protection or any status that it had in society. It’s going to lose it. It is going to be taken away, rendered null, rendered void. By the bye, if you read Christopher Ferrara’s book, which is in the Founders Tradin’ Post, Liberty, the God That Failed, if you read all the way to the end, he predicts all this. This is easily predictable.
There will be no more protection for religion. You can’t have the secular state and Beelzebub running the show and saying that almost anything that one can imagine is permissible, and then have a religion or religious people that say: No, it’s not. The two are going to clash. You are going to have the secular atheists and they’re going to clash with the secular permissive people who have no devotion to any faith, any canon, any orthodoxy, any tradition, any liturgy, nothing. They’re going to clash. You’re going to have people that are going to clash. The people that have devout, heartfelt, lifelong religious devotions are going to be told: Too bad, get rid of them. If you don’t get rid of them, you will pay.
My only question is: In what state are we going to build the Catholic bastille? Where are those people that are going to be martyred over this, where are we going to be imprisoned at? Are they going to put us on an island? But this is the country we’re supposed to send our sons and daughters off to go die for freedom, right? What a joke. What an absolute joke. The joke is on us. This is easily predictable when people turn their back on the Almighty, easily predictable. He notices.
Additionally, the Giffords must provide sensitivity training to their staff…
Mike: In other words, we’re going to fine you and then we’re going to cleanse your brains. I wonder if that sensitivity training is incompatible with Catholic Church teaching on homosexuality. I bet it is. What do you do then? What if they give you a test and they say: Answer these questions honestly. You go no, no, no, no, and no. You just failed the test. We’re going to take your license away. You can’t host any parties out there. If you don’t quit, we’re just going to go ahead and start procedures to what, commandeer property now? What’s next after this? What’s next?
Additionally, the Giffords must provide sensitivity training to their staff and prominently display a poster highlighting state anti-discrimination laws.
The Giffords’ attorney, Jim Trainor, told LifeSiteNews that the two-year-legal drama and resulting fines all stemmed from a single brief phone call in 2012 that caught his clients off guard. [Mike: I want you to listen to the deceit that these lesbians perpetrated on Mr. and Mrs. Giffords.]
“The entire interaction between the Complainants and the Giffords transpired during a two or three minute telephone conversation which, unknown to Mrs. Gifford, was being tape recorded,” Trainor said.
“After communicating the fact that they chose not to hold same-sex marriage ceremonies at the farm because to do so would violate the Giffords’ sincerely held beliefs (that God intended marriage to be between a man and a woman only), Mrs. Gifford invited the couple to visit the farm to discuss handling their wedding reception, which the couple refused.”
The Giffords draw a line, Trainor explained, between a ceremony that solemnizes a homosexual relationship and a reception that celebrates the union after the fact.
Mike: So after the same-sex marriage, they were then going to follow our Lord’s teaching and love their neighbors, which, if you ask any Catholic out there: How do you treat gay people? What do you mean how do I treat them? I treat them like I treat anyone else. The Second Commandment, you love your neighbor as you love yourself. That does not mean you have to love everything that your neighbor does, and no, it does not mean that you have to grant sanction to it either. But we don’t want to go there because we want it all. We’re radical homosexuals and we want it all. You’re going to marry us and you’re going to love us. Isn’t this just amazing? The Christian, the real devout Christian, volunteers his or her love and affection, no strings attached, with the one caveat that I won’t go there with you on the marriage thing. Just leave it alone. Can’t we just be happy and get along together? No, no, we are going to beat you, the radicals say. You will be assimilated. This is the Borg here.
I want you to understand what is happening here, ladies and gentlemen. Do not scoff at this. This silliness of worrying about Lois Lerner’s emails, compared to this, is what I was talking about when I said I could apply some pretty precious — and when I say precious I don’t mean that it’s elevated; I mean that there’s not a lot of it — precious brain power and prayer power to this issue. So they surreptitiously recorded the phone call and then went to the human rights commission. In other words, the lesbians knew the Giffords were going to say no. They wanted to persecute them so that they could have their way. And we’re supposed to want to make friends with these people? [/private]
If someone did this and they were of any sexuality or you didn’t know what sexuality they were of and they had conspired to cost you life, limb, property, and then sensitivity training brainwashing, what would you think of them? What would you think of other people that purported to be like them and were cheerleading their actions? If we were talking the usual suspect libs, you know what they would be doing if we were talking about Linda Tripp recording Monica Lewinsky’s calls? What would they be doing? [mocking] “Federal law prohibits that. You’re going to jail.” They would be riding to the rescue of the adulterer, wouldn’t they? Tape recording phone calls without knowledge, ooh, you’re in trouble now, buddy. But when it’s done for this kind of purpose, that’s fine. [mocking] “We had to do it. These Gifford people, these Catholic terrorists that are living out there in the Albany hinterlands, they were conspiring against the same-sex marriage people.” Really, by minding their own business they were conspiring? Back to the story.
To participate in the former, they argue, would be a violation of their own religious beliefs, especially because marriage ceremonies on the farm typically take place in and around the couple’s home…
Mike: Now the radical, homosexual activists want access to your home to perform their ceremony.
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