The NRA And Incorporationistas

Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – For some reason, it has just been seared into the mind of the average American gun owner out there.  It doesn’t matter what the facts are and it doesn’t matter what the Constitution as ratified and the Bill of Rights, as you call it, as ratified said.  It doesn’t even matter what the first 130 years of life under that amendment, what that intent was and how that intent was honored.  That doesn’t even matter. Check out today’s transcript for the rest…

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Mike:  Next up on our telephone line is Brandon in Tennessee.  You are on the Mike Church Show, Sirius XM Patriot Channel.  How you doing?

Caller Brandon:  All right.  Thank you for taking my call, Mike.  I listen to your show every day.

Mike:  Thank you.

Caller Brandon:  I believe you were wrong in a statement earlier, roughly 50 minutes ago.  You said the NRA would bargain with our Second Amendment rights or something along them lines in these legislation debates, that they would deal with them to keep some of our rights and give up on others.  I don’t believe you’re correct in that.  I listen to Cam and Company every night as well.  I work third shift, so I catch him 11-2.  According to what Cam and Company says, they’re straight for our Second Amendment rights and every letter of it.  I don’t see them bargaining.

Mike:  I believe they already have.

Caller Brandon:  I stand corrected then.  I haven’t heard of any bargaining from the NRA.

Mike:  Cam and I differ greatly on this.  With all due respect to Cam, I don’t want to micturate on their parade.  They’re just incorrect.  They believe that incorporation is the way to go.  You can’t have it both ways.  Either you’re for ratified intent of the Constitution or you’re not.  They are not for ratified intent.  Again, with all due respect — I’m not trying to shoot inside the tent here — we just have a difference of opinion.  The NRA has already done it.  They’ve already instigated the incorporation.  They filed amicus briefs.  They hired lawyers in the Heller and McDonald case.  You can go read the cases and see for yourself.

Not only have they already done it, now that it’s in Washington, guess what?  They’ll have fulltime lobbyists doing what?  Sitting down at a table saying: No, you can’t pass that one.  Yeah, you can do that.  Nah, you can’t do that one.  All right, you can do that.  The National Rifle Association has gone from being a sportsman’s paradise organization into one of the largest lobbying firms on the face of the planet, Brandon.  No, I’m not incorrect.  I wish that I were, and I wish that everyone would adopt the Constitution as ratified.  Then maybe you’d have a TRA, the Tennessee Rifle Association, that would be on guard and on watch against your sheriffs and state legislature telling them: Tennesseans’ rights to keep and bear will not be infringed.

I don’t know why you people, why is it that you just will not accept federalism?  You just won’t do it.  It doesn’t matter how many times, doesn’t matter how many facts, doesn’t matter how many times we run through the history.  It doesn’t even matter the awful consequences of your question for incorporation.  That doesn’t even matter to you.  This is the most bullheaded, stupefying thing I have ever encountered in my life.  The sky is blue when there are no clouds in the middle of the day.  [mocking] “No, the NRA says it’s purple.  It’s purple.  Shut up.”  Really, dude?  Did you look at it?  [mocking] “I don’t care.  The NRA said it’s purple.  It’s purple.  You need to shut up, you gun grabber.”

Yeah, right, we’re gun grabbers.  That would have made all your heroes that are founders gun grabbers.  That would have made the men that actually wrote the Second Amendment and actually knew and understood the ratified intent of it gun grabbers.  Just one of these mysteries of life, ladies and gentlemen, that I will never understand.  For some reason, it has just been seared into the mind of the average American gun owner out there.  It doesn’t matter what the facts are and it doesn’t matter what the Constitution as ratified and the Bill of Rights, as you call it, as ratified said.  It doesn’t even matter what the first 130 years of life under that amendment, what that intent was and how that intent was honored.  That doesn’t even matter.

For those of you that are in denial over this — I can’t believe, over and over and over again.  I’ll just take one state for example.  Let’s see if you and the NRA’s view that the Second Amendment was universal, applied to the known universe from here to the Ice World of Hoth, from Hoth to Romulus, from Romulus to LV-426, back here, through the Stargate to the other end of the universe and then back.  I hold here in my hand a document, ratified on 3 August 1891.  Gee, 1891, that was in the past wasn’t it?  That was in the past.  That was 122 years ago almost.  Gee, let’s see what that amendment says in Kentucky.  Kentucky Constitution, maybe we should read this.

[reading]

Kentucky Constitution, Section 1: Rights of life, liberty, worship, pursuit of safety and happiness, free speech, acquiring and protecting property, peaceable assembly, redress of grievances, bearing arms.

[end reading]

Mike:  I’ve heard this before.  Where have I heard that?  Oh, I know, the right to keep and bear arms.  Bearing arms, so it’s in the Kentucky Constitution.  Why would those idiots, those moonshine-making, knuckle-dragging Neanderthal tyrants, why would they put something in their silly constitution about bearing arms?  We already had the holy, precious, sent-from-God, sanctified Second Amendment that applied to everyone in the known universe.  We just came back through the Stargate.  We checked.  I don’t know, maybe we should read the rest of it.  Yes, let’s read the rest of it and see what it says.  I found it.  [mocking] “Ooh, ooh, Mr. Church, Mr. Church, I want to read it.  Let me read it.”  I found it.  Section 7 of the Kentucky Constitution, let’s see what it says.

[reading]

Section 1, Article 7: The right to bear arms in defense of themselves and of the State, subject to the power of the General Assembly to enact laws to prevent persons from carrying concealed weapons.

[end reading]

Mike:  I wonder what in God’s holy name those tyrants could have been thinking?  They couldn’t have regulated firearms in Kentucky.  Remember, God gave us the Second Amendment.  It holds true and in force from here, through the Stargate, all the way through those planets I mentioned.  You know, I think it’s even in force at God’s table in heaven.  How could these gun-grabbing tyrants in Kentucky have the unmitigated gall to believe that their legislature ought to have some say so over concealed weapons, and that our right to keep and bear arms in Kentucky happened as a grant of power from their general assembly, meaning they were claiming the power, reserving the power, as was theirs under Amendment Two because the Feds can’t do it.  So Kentucky, in its constitution of 1891, is reasserting that its general assembly can stop some of you nut bags from carrying weapons into certain places.  Shall I go to Kentucky and find the great grandson of the author of that part of the amendment and string him up by his feet and get him to recant it?  Shall I do that?

Why, oh why, is this so difficult of a process, so difficult of a concept to grasp?  Ladies and gentlemen, those of you that fear Obama and the Department of Education and all those libs out there because they brainwash your kids and they propagandize you, I submit to you, those of you that are in denial of what we’ve been talking about here, you are the subjects of brainwashing.  You are the subjects of propaganda.  You don’t even see it.  When the critical thinking mind, when the historian — amateur and professional because I’m not the only one that holds this position — as I said, it’s historically accurate, seems not to matter because the fantasy you want to believe is so much more glorious, isn’t it?

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