Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – The first two hours of this show we spent a lot of time talking about the situation in Rowan County, Kentucky with the clerk there, Kim Davis, who is refusing to issue — to be clear, she’s refusing to issue any licenses. If you’re trying to get a marriage license in that county, you’re not getting one. She is not issuing them to homosexuals. She is citing that she is obeying God’s law. Check out today’s transcript for the rest….
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Mike: The first two hours of this show we spent a lot of time talking about the situation in Rowan County, Kentucky with the clerk there, Kim Davis, who is refusing to issue — to be clear, she’s refusing to issue any licenses. If you’re trying to get a marriage license in that county, you’re not getting one. She is not issuing them to homosexuals. She is citing that she is obeying God’s law. I have been defending this from the point of view that Kentucky law actually is to be obeyed as well. In all cases, save for those where there has been an enumeration, then there is no other law to obey. I want to cover this one more time. Let’s just go over this again. [/private]
Let’s go back to 1787 and the federal convention. Why is there a federal convention? If you’re shopping in the Founders Tradin’ Post and you pick up a download copy of Fame of Our Fathers, you can answer that question easily. The reason is because some scheming and conniving men believed that we need a central government authority because they are not powerful enough. It’s often portrayed that they were tireless public servants and they only had the safety and security of the liberty of their constituents at heart. That is true of many of them but not all of them. As we know, it doesn’t take a majority to run the world and screw things up.
So this Constitution is drafted in convention. See Spirit of ‘76 or listen to it all weekend long on the webcast. If you have a copy, re-listen to it or get one at Amazon.com, CD or DVD. I take you inside the convention and then you’ll learn that we’ve got these states and no one wants to surrender their authority or sovereignty as states. How do you propose that we can have a central government while we have sovereign states? The solution proposed by James Madison and others was pretty unique in that regard. That is, the states maintain their sovereignty. Again, you can’t get to second base unless you understand this, and this is first base. The powers that are granted to the new general government of the United States under the Constitution, Article I, Section 8, part of Section 9, there are a couple of other powers that are granted but they’re all in there. They are what is known as enumerations.
The states that ratify the Constitution, in their act of ratification, are stating for the public record that they as a sovereign entity — that’s the state, not the legislature of the state, the state. You are the state. If you live in it, you are the state. The people that ratified in the state conventions were stating that they possessed all the governmental powers that they wished to exercise. They were willing to assign some of those powers to the new central government to execute on their behalf. Let’s make this clear. If the state did not have the power, it could not have enumerated it and then assigned it to Congress to use on their behalf. Again, Federalism 101. Three-year-olds understand this. The only people that don’t understand this are either one, invincibly ignorant, or two, vincibly ignorant. You don’t want to know. You know it and you reject it because it doesn’t comport with the 2nd Amendment and your mythology on it or whatever. That’s a fact, jack. I’m not making anything up here. This is all part of the historical record. Let’s get that clear.
Subsequent to the Constitution being ratified there have been amendments, 28 of them. Not one of those amendments that has been ratified with a state has anything to do with the act of marriage, or for that matter any other municipal act. None, zero. A state like Kentucky has never ever transferred to the general government an enumeration of municipal law or an enumeration on marriage or divorce, child support laws, etc. They’ve all retained those powers. If they haven’t been enumerated, then how pray tell can a federal court or the Supreme Court order states to comply with its version or its preference when it comes to who can and cannot marry? The answer to the question is they can’t. Obviously that hasn’t stopped them from pretending as though they can. An excessive power grab does not make the power that is grabbed, or the act of grabbing the power and then using it as an enumeration does not make it legitimate, just as breaking a law doesn’t make the law illegitimate. [mocking] “Well, you broke the law.” Yeah, I did. That doesn’t mean that the law is not in effect anymore. This is simple, very simple.
Of course, I’m not stupid, folks. I know many of you think that I am and I’m not thick headed. I know that many of you think that I am. I try not to be. I understand that the general government thinks and acts in some manner as though they do have municipal authority, and as if they do have some say so over marriages and other municipal acts. They don’t. Just because they claim it doesn’t make it right. The point is, you can’t enforce [mocking] “That Kentucky clerk should enforce the law.” She is enforcing the law, the law of Kentucky, as she should. There is no other law for her to enforce as the county clerk. The same is true in Alabama, Louisiana, and every other place. It is unfortunate that spineless governors, spineless legislators won’t say the same thing. I’m going to tell you why. It doesn’t have anything to do with the Constitution. It doesn’t have anything to do with what’s right or wrong. All it has to do with is the free flow of printed money. That’s the reason. That’s the only reason. They don’t want to lose their slot at the trough. They’re feeding. They’re a bunch of parasitical pigs. They’re feeding at the federal trough and they don’t want to jeopardize. You know why? Because they like spending other people’s money. You know what, folks? Most of us like spending other people’s money, too. [/private]
If you want to fix any of this, if you actually want to attack this and repair it, there’s only one thing to do. It’s unfortunate that it has to just be this particular issue and it has to come to a head here on this. On the subject of homosexuals and their alleged marriages, I might also direct your attention to all those laws that states have passed that have been allegedly struck down and abrogated by federal judges in the Supreme Court dealing with the ghastly, murderous, lethal practice of abortion. Under the same principle, states — that means the people — people think, [mocking] “What’s a state? It’s our government.” No, it’s not your government. You are the state. Your government exists because of you. A state cannot form itself. People form a state. Therefore, the state is the people. This is another concept that John Taylor of Caroline County and others understood. This was understood all the way up to the beginning of the 20th century. It’s not understood anymore.
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